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Frankly? When the thing they think is bigotry, no it is not ok. This isn't a casual difference of opinion, it's discrimination - thinking that an immutable part of someone's identity is a fundamental sin.
We do not need to adhere to free speech absolutism, and we do not need to equally entertain all ideas and opinions. We are human beings, not abstract concepts that adhere to ideological purity - we can make exceptions.
What about the phrase "sunlight is the best disinfectant"?. You can allow people to air their opinions (regardless of whether you believe they're bigoted or not) and it'll hurt their cause. Alex Jones is nothing but a meme now because of having a platform.
Doesn't banning these people prove their ideas and conspiracies right and force them deeper underground?
If they aren't promoting literal violence, leave them be. Just because they upset some people isn't a reason to ban them.
The Westboro Baptist Church is a prime example of airing their foul opinions causing almost a complete exodus and switch on behalf of the church members. If you think you're right, try to convince them.
If you want to talk to them, go somewhere they congregate and talk to them. It's not like such places are rare on the internet. Not everywhere needs to be a platform for hate.
You do realise that every single social platform favours your way of thinking? You are pretending like you aren't fully in charge.
All you need to do is shout "my feelings!" and you get results. Like toddlers shouting for cookies.
Really? 4chan does? How about exploding-heads? reddit? What unmitigated horseshit.
You're whining that bigots aren't welcome here. Your poor feelings. There's already too many places that are as stormfront-y as you'd prefer. Not everywhere has to be.
There were a total of 12 threads there and not one of them was the slightest bit bigoted. Get a grip.
Well, that first thread on your list there was in response to the bigotry that informed rule 8.
If you want to talk to me again, please refrain from huge pointless text dumps.
You're the one claiming they are like stormfront, and I've just shown otherwise. Want to try again?
No, scroll waaaaaay up and re-read what I wrote. I said that bigots already have many platforms on which they were welcome. The guy defending bigots whined that this isn't one of them. I said that he was upset because he would prefer everywhere to be more like stormfront.
All you did was dump a wall of text that omitted the bigotry central to the discussion. Because not only are you irritating enough to dump a wall of text in the service of bigotry, you're dishonest enough to deny it where it exists.
Not every site is obligated to be complicit in the spread of bigotry. No good community welcomes bigots.
So, why not install one of the members there as mod to clean up the rule (which has never been enforced). As it is, it's been nuked - the community name is banned forever, and the members are sol.
edit: The community was deleted less than an hour after this thread went up, there was no effort made to correct the problem whatsoever.
They were removed for being bigots.
Good. Hope to see the admins doing so consistently.
Sure there was. The problem was solved by the ban.