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Starting to use "soulseek" do I need VPN (lemmy.zip)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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So I use a VPN when torrenting as per usual but with Soulseek I wish to share my music with others and that requires me to open a port. I have no problem doing so I just do not pay for a VPN that can do this at the current price I am paying. Is it possible/what are the chances of me getting in trouble ISP wise from using soulseek with no VPN. With where I live I would get in trouble with no VPN and torrents for clarity.
I see posts from years ago saying no just wondering if things have changed.

Thanks

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

but it’s obviously always recommended to use one over not using one

Why? Why does it matter whether your traffic is visible to your ISP or a VPN company?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Because you are doing something illegal. Your ISP might not care, but if someone complains, they HAVE to start the process. You're not only protecting yourself, but your ISP from the music industry's wrath.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's more about being visible to other users. If other users have your IP address, they can go to your ISP and complain about your IP address sharing copyrighted material. In certain jurisdictions they have to give out your info so that legal action can be taken against you.

If you use a VPN, they only know that somebody using this VPN is sharing copyrighted material. Since VPNs usually do not log who sends what, they can't be made to give out users data, so you're safe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Other users do not have your IP address. It is not like torrenting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait then why does nicotine+ have a button when I right click on a peer, "users>Show IP Address," which returns "IP address of user [REDACTED] is [REDACTED], port 40447 (CA/Canada)" (In case you're wondering, I'm the one that redacted it. I'm looking at my most recent peer's info).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. It isn't an option in the official SoulSeek client so I never knew.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Soulseek/comments/dmofyp/finding_an_ip_for_iligal_use_or_shared_content/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah nic+ is way better. I didn't know the official didn't let you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah idk why you spread misinformation like that. File up/downloads are done via a p2p connection (see a reverse-engineered documentation of the p2p connection process) and thus the IP addresses are obviously known. Maybe not directly visible in the SoulseekQt client itself, but definitely through third party network connection monitors like Wireshark. It's pretty trivial for anyone using Soulseek to get IPs of the people they download from.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah idk why you spread

You do know why. I said.