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OpenAI says it’s “impossible” to create useful AI models without copyrighted material (arstechnica.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Apparently, stealing other people's work to create product for money is now "fair use" as according to OpenAI because they are "innovating" (stealing). Yeah. Move fast and break things, huh?

"Because copyright today covers virtually every sort of human expression—including blogposts, photographs, forum posts, scraps of software code, and government documents—it would be impossible to train today’s leading AI models without using copyrighted materials," wrote OpenAI in the House of Lords submission.

OpenAI claimed that the authors in that lawsuit "misconceive[d] the scope of copyright, failing to take into account the limitations and exceptions (including fair use) that properly leave room for innovations like the large language models now at the forefront of artificial intelligence."

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

https://petapixel.com/2024/01/03/court-docs-reveal-midjourney-wanted-to-copy-the-style-of-these-photographers/

What's stopping AI companies from paying royalties to artists they ripped off?

Also, lol at accounts created within few hours just to reply in this thread.

The moment their works are the one that got stolen by big companies and driven out of business, watch their tune change.

Edit: I remember when Reddit did that shitshow, and all the sudden a lot of sock / bot accounts appeared. I wasn't expecting it to happen here, but I guess election cycle is near.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

What’s stopping AI companies from paying royalties to artists they ripped off?

profit. AI is not even a profitable business now. They exist because of the huge amount of investment being poured into it. If they have to pay their fair share they would not exist as a business.

what OpenAI says is actually true. The issue IMHO is the idea that we should give them a pass to do it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Uber wasn't making profit anyway, despite all the VCs money behind it.

I guess they have reasons not to pay drivers properly. Give Uber a free pass for it too

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

When you think about it, all companies would make so much more money if they didn't have to pay their staff, or pay for materials they use! This whole economy and capitalism business, which relies on money being exchanged for goods and services, is clearly holding back profits. Clearly the solution here is obvious: everybody should embrace OpenAI's methods and simply grab whatever they want without paying for it. Profit for everyone!

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