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It’s doubtful he ever sees it your way because “capitalism good musk good” sentiment is a fundamental difference that can only really be changed by real experience.
Without passing too much judgement, as long as your friend is firmly middle of the status quo and believes in the meritocracy, he will never have a the perspective required to see the world like we do.
Also, be weary of his language, he is on the verge of calling poor people lazy whether he means to or not.
I mean, i once came from this sentiment once as well and have now since been deprogrammed and changed direction leftwards. I mainly see it more as an intellectual disagreement rather than a fundamental one.
Fair enough, obviously there is more nuance to people and their beliefs, but I just immediately get a certain vibe when they start acting like the 1% is actually good.
Trying to say that unhoused people have it good in New York compared other places in other time periods is reminiscent of slavery apologists acting like slaves had it good because they had housing.
Obviously I’m not trying to label your friend as a slavery apologist, I just drew comparison between the ideas.
It's even dumber than that. The idea that NY homeless have it better than even literal peasants in past ages is silly, let alone having it better than the landed gentry as that fucker implies. Peasants generally had a stable means of subsistence and weren't as liable to get maimed or killed by state actors for just existing.
His stance is intellectually flimsy, if it were just that you wouldn't need the least bit of help
Saying "the worst get nothing" is basically one step away from saying that poor countries could be carpet bombed and the world wouldn't be lessened in any real capacity. I think a lot about how many people that could have the capacity to be brilliant medical researchers are stuck toiling away in lithium mines as slaves.