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submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Those seem incompatible to me.

(UBI means Universal Basic Income, giving everyone a basic income, for free)

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[-] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago

I've always wanted UBI to be a thing but after a discussion with my brother I'm second guessing it. His argument is that corporations will just increase their prices and not much would change.

He suggested that instead, we use the money that we would use for UBI to guarantee that EVERYONE'S basic needs are met. Housing, food, healthcare, etc..

I know it's easier said than done but I'm just worried that billionaires will fuck up UBI like they fuck up everything else.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago

He's assuming infinite elasticity, which isn't how prices work in real life.

The typical version of this argument is that the people who are being taxed in the first place are the ones increasing rents. In which case taxes can then be increased until the desired equilibrium is achieved.

That's not to say we couldn't also provide a basic safety net like he describes. But that raises the question of why UBI should stop there. If our economy can generate a surplus, then why shouldn't all humans sharing their slice of the Earth get it?

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Nah, they just can't get off unless they're using the tears of the oppressed as lube.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Man, I wish Henry George could've convinced Karl Marx of that.

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