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For anyone wondering, this is an actual photo of Israeli soldiers posing with a Palestinian female prisoner.
For context, here is a link to a France 24 news article from 2010 that references this same photo
https://www.france24.com/en/20100818-idf-soldier-prisoner-photos-facebook-breaking-the-silence-palestinian-prisoners-israel
I was hoping they'd mention in the article but they didn't, what the hell is that orange propane tank looking thing with wires sticking out of the top right in front of her?
I'm Iranian, I know those. Many years ago, before gas lines were widespread we bought gas for cooking and heating in those kinds of canisters. You can still find them in use in many places, especially if used with a cooking valve top it is a great portable cooking station for vacations
https://demotywatory.pl/uploads/201802/1517690074_tj5ypg_fb_plus.jpg
This is the biggest copy of this image I could find online, I'm familiar with similar camping stoves, and the bit coming out of the top doesn't look like the attachment for cooking. Possibly for refilling? What an odd thing to pose with though, they look like that meme of US cops standing around that table with a bowl, like 3.5g of weed, and like $24.
We used to hook something like this to those, back in the old days
There are also these, which hook directly intp the canister valve:
There are also other utilities for these, like heating and even gas powered lamps! Very useful for camping, even tho they're pretty heavy
This is widespread culture in the IDF.
Container color is typically decided by the manufacturer, but in this case, it is probably medical and is most likely oxygen. Or it’s none of those and it’s just a regular propane tank and they thought it would be cool or something.
Googling “orange compressed gas cylinder” gave me results for both oxygen cylinders and propane canisters, so in this case probably propane. The implication is probably meant to be that it’s a bomb, but it’s hard to tell anything conclusively from this photo. The extra bits on top could just be an apparatus for refilling smaller containers, like for camp stoves or something.
Oh like they “caught them with a bomb” or something? That makes sense.
Sprinkle a little ~~crack~~ hastily manufactured fake 'IED' on them and call it a day.
Seems about as plausible as the FSB planting and showcasing the Sims 3 in a staged Ukrainian 'bust' rather than SIMs x3.
Interesting, it doesn't look like any o2 tanks I'm familiar with nor does it appear to have any masks or anything that would indicate to me it is for medical use. Whatever it is it looks really out of place, is this in a medical facility? It almost looks like a school or something.
Canisters vary by country, use and manufacturer. And it could be a school indeed. But, medical supplies would realistically be around military and hostages. I’m just guessing at this point, it’s a strange item to see on the floor in front of a hostage. 🤷♂️
Let's say it is an IED
Does that now make the photo acceptable?
If the woman is a terrorist then yes, by quite a huge lot. They'd be smarter not to act like frat boys in this situation perhaps, but young people are often idiots. Especially when in high pressure situations like a war.
If captured terrorist = PoW then it can be argued that this photo is against the Geneva convention
"prisoners or war must be treated with dignity, and not exposed to public curiosity – like circulating images on social media”.
I don't claim to be anything close to an expert in international law, but I think there's some controversy around the question of whether captured Hamas soldiers are prisoners of war.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu constantly refers to the "the war". Therefore Hamas soldiers are PoWs. He can't have it both ways.
This war has been ongoing since 1948.
If the child* you mean.
The goddamn fucking CHILD.
Good old France 24. Protecting the soldiers right to privacy while representing their government.