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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Isn't propaganda just a form of persuasion? What about propaganda separates it from advertising or interpersonal communication?

Edit: Not all propaganda involves lying. For some reason, we seem to be more comfortable with a person lying to us than we are with viewing a propaganda poster that uses verifiable facts.

Edit 2: Another interesting note is that in some countries, propaganda is not viewed negatively like it is in English speaking countries.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not all propaganda involves lying.

Dictionaries seem to disagree with your definition.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Wiktionary suggests lying isn't necessary:

Biased communication aimed to influence an audience to further an agenda, encourage a particular perception or provoke an emotional response

It's very similar to the OED definition returned from Google.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Merriam-Webster

the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person

Cambridge

information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions

Oxford

The systematic dissemination of information, esp. in a biased or misleading way, in order to promote a particular cause or point of view, often a political agenda. Also: information disseminated in this way; the means or media by which such ideas are disseminated. Cf. black propaganda n.

Collins

Propaganda is information, often inaccurate information, that a political organization publishes or broadcasts in order to influence people.

Point being, even if it's not necessarily all lies how do you know you're not being lied to or mislead when most propaganda are, by definition, lies and half-truths? I don't trust any sort of propaganda because chances are I'm being lied to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

how do you know you're not being lied to or mislead when most propaganda are, by definition, lies and half-truths?

Research, dig deeper and come to your own conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

People use words in different ways. You will find varying definitions of propaganda. Some people will call any information produced by a government propaganda. Some people will only call that information propaganda if it appears to have a notable bias. Some will only call the info propaganda if it contains outright lies.

You seem to want to define propaganda as any information produced by a government designed to pursuance people of something. Most people are not going to be against that kind of information (or at least not strongly against it). I’m pretty sure most people that say they are against propaganda view propaganda as information that is misleading or an outright lie.

The problem here seems to be that you have taken the stance that propaganda simply means “persuasion”.