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Keir Starmer praises Margaret Thatcher for bringing ‘meaningful change’ to UK
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It's quite shit right now but ngl I wouldn't want to live in America either. There are some things I value that we have here which is why it's ever more of a shame it's going down the shitter.
Like what?
healthcare for one, lack of armed crazy people another
Just for clarification, were not arguing here, i dont think US is better. Isnt your healthcare system going to shit too?
oh absolutely it's going to shit but the American healthcare is already there
Our healthcare is being deliberately mismanaged so it can be sold off piecemeal and eventually turned into yours
Eh, to be honest I think part of the reason why the NHS looks better is because while american healthcare sucks and is too expensive, you brits have never experianced it in comparison to your own.
I watched philosophy tube's video about the NHS and honestly it seems like the NHS is a government agency dedicated to wasting tens of billions of dollars to maintain the appearance of healthcare so people can feel good about themselves until they actually need it. I for one prefer to know that at least while I might be financially ruined at a hospital or receiving gender affirming care, at least I can get it.
There is a fairly simple comparison to make here, the UK life expectancy is 80.9 years while the US life expectancy is 77.2 years.
Healthcare in the UK is bad for anything that is a non-emergency, this is certainly true. You will be treated fast in the US system for these things. But critical care is still very very good.
Obviously other factors play into this as well, like diets, health and safety, workplace regulations, food regulations and so on. But I don't think the NHS provides poor care to those who absolutely need it. The problem is the in-betweens and things like gender care that are politicised topics.
You're also not getting lesser care if you're poor, which is a major and important factor. Nobody has "bad insurance" here.