this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2023
1 points (100.0% liked)
covid
683 readers
3 users here now
Try to include sources for posts No Covid misinformation, including anti-vaxx, anti-mask, anti-lockdown takes.
COVID MINIMIZATION = BAN
This community is a safe space for COVID-related discussion. People who minimize/deny COVID, are anti-mask, etc... will be banned.
Off-topic posts will be removed
Jessica Wildfire's COVID bookmark list
COVID-safe dentists: (thanks sovietknuckles)
- https://covidsafeproviders.com/category/covid-safe-dental-dentists/
- https://www.covidsafedentists.ca/
- https://www.covidmeetups.com/en/directory/dentists/US
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
One of the common refrains from 2020 that I remember is "case numbers don't matter, you have to look at death rate." Well, now that death rate has gone up, do you think any action will be taken by those who were so concerned with the death rate back then?
Anyway, this is interesting. Do you know if there are any numbers out yet for the USA? I can only find 2021 numbers.
According to this article, life expectancy started going back up in 2022, so that's good.
Yeah I ended up finding the statistics last night. it's interesting the US has seen the exact opposite trend as Canada, with life expectancy going up and Covid moving from the third to fourth leading cause of death.
edit: Life expectancy: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr031.pdf
Leading causes of death: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm
They are either doing shenanigans with the data, or we are actually recovering from the huge toll covid took on the US in the first years. The acute stage of the disease is less dangerous thanks to vaccines. We'll see how things go over the next year, I guess.
I am interested to see what happens to the other leading causes of death, since covid can make them all worse.
Yeah, is it possible our let it rip strategy just killed off the most vulnerable people in the US, whereas Australia and Canada had more protections in place (not sure about Canada but I know Australia did at least in the first year - also I can't imagine Canada had less protections than the US) that now that they've moved closer to the US "let it rip" strategy they're seeing more deaths, whereas we just decided to go let it rip from the start pretty much?
Also I was reading yesterday that there's no standardized way to categorize leading causes of death. Maybe this has something to do with it? Not sure how U.S. statistics compare with Australian and Canadian statistics in that regard though so maybe not.
This is definitely what's being ignored in the data, even for Canada. Heart diseases are in the top two leading causes of death for all Australia, Canada and the U.S. We know Covid can cause heart disease, and the risk remains high for months after an infection. I don't believe there's really any way to prove Covid caused heart disease in terms of biomarkers or anything, but that possibility that not only is covid one of the top leading causes of death, but also it's contributing to many of the other leading causes of death seems to be ignored by all the data, unsurprisingly.