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The animating concept behind the Trump campaign will be chaos. This is what history shows us fascists do when given the chance to participate in democratic political campaigns: They create chaos. They do it because chaos works to their advantage. They revel in it, because they can see how profoundly chaos unnerves democratic-republicans—everyone, that is, whether liberal or conservative, who believes in the basic idea of a representative government that is built around neutral rules. Fascism exists to pulverize neutral rules.

So they campaign with explicit intention to instill a sense of chaos. And then comes the topper: They have the audacity to insist that the only solution to the chaos—that they themselves have either grossly exaggerated or in some cases created!—is to vote for them: “You see, there is nothing but chaos afoot, and only we can restore order!”

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

He’s the incumbent. The last incumbents to not be reelected were Trump and HW Bush. Tell me again why Biden is unelectable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because Biden is a lot closer to HW Bush than he is to Obama. One of the reasons he got the nod in the first place was his promise not to run for re-election. And where we are now is why.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden specifically said he would not promise to serve one term.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh bullshit he said that once while telling everyone around him that he was a one term president. And he continually referred to himself as a transition president or a stopgap bridge to the next generation.

The message was received by voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

Another top Biden adviser put it this way: “He’s going into this thinking, ‘I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years but if that’s not possible or doesn’t happen then I’ll run for reelection.’ But he’s not going to publicly make a one term pledge.”

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A top Biden adviser said Biden ruled out a one-term pledge when the issue was raised before he even entered the race. “He said it was a nonstarter,” the adviser said, adding that Biden believed it was a “gimmick.”

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In April [2019], when asked whether he would serve just one term, Biden responded, “No.” More recently, Biden has been ambiguous. In October, The Associated Press reported that when “asked whether he would pledge to only serve one term if elected, Biden said he wouldn’t make such a promise but noted he wasn’t necessarily committed to seeking a second term if elected in 2020.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Even in your own quotes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

How about we get a president that isn't over 70 and doesn't require uppers to function, like biden, or literal adult diapers, like trump.

Both options are garbage and both men need to retire.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The last incumbents to not be reelected were Trump and HW Bush.

Funny that you didn't mention Carter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Last 40 years not good enough? Even with Carter the odds are better for the incumbent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh it's not that, it's just there is so few presidents that didn't win their second election, and you listed all of them except one particular democrat, is all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

People don't think he does enough. And "his son". Basically it's to just be edgy. Dude has taken a shit show and make it resemble an office again.