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Dave Chappelle’s Obsession With Mocking Trans People Continues in New Netflix Special ‘The Dreamer’: ‘I Love Punching Down’ (variety.com)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (24 children)

He's a comedian, he makes fun of people. If you don't like it then you're not the target audience. There's plenty of comedians out there making fun of other groups

[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Making a peanut butter and jelly doesn't make you a chef. If everyone says your food sucks, it sucks.

Chappelle isn't as funny as he used to be and lately he's being dumb as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure that's the best analogy. As far as I know, Dave Chappelle is still pretty popular. So everyone isn't saying his comedy sucks.

I don't have Netflix so I haven't seen his most recent specials. But my feelings about him are mixed. He has a nuanced take on controversial issues and isn't afraid of voicing his opinions about them to push the conversation forward. I think he is taking a contrarian stance against what he perceives as a lack of nuance in response to his side of the conversation. I can understand being frustrated at tackling a complex issue imperfectly and simply being labeled a transphobe in response. But I also think he's overamplifying these voices in his head.

I think comedy is a great method of breaking societal tensions and exposing people to new perspectives. Bill Burr also has a lot of controversial nuanced takes. I think he gets away with it more because he does more to establish just how imperfect he is. Overall I think Dave should disengage from trans issues because he's already said what he has to say. He shouldn't let the critics get him fired up enough to fire back. He should also acknowledge his own imperfections and avenues for growth. But maybe I'm misreading his intentions and feelings. Maybe I'm mischaracterizing his critics. I just see a lot of complexity in this debate and a lot less complexity in the responses to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

He has a nuanced take on controversial issues and isn't afraid of voicing his opinions about them to push the conversation forward. I think he is taking a contrarian stance against what he perceives as a lack of nuance in response to his side of the conversation. I can understand being frustrated at tackling a complex issue imperfectly and simply being labeled a transphobe in response.

I don't think that's a good excuse in general, but for Chappelle specifically it definitely doesn't work.

If I remember correctly, when he walked away from his show is was partly due to the wrong people laughing for the wrong reasons. Bigots were laughing at his "nuanced takes" on the black community for their own racist reasons and missing the point.

Even if you think Chappelle isn't bigoted and he's trying to make some other point, after all this time it should be very clear to him bigots are missing the point and laughing for the wrong reasons.

He had the strength and conviction to walk away when it was the black community he thought he might be harming but not when it's trans people.

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