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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They said he was going to jail every month since 2016, when can I expect to see it happen?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To say it again and again:

Stealing someones money or hitting someone in the face takes only seconds or minutes. Getting justice takes years or even a decade.

The sandy hooks parents fought for 10 year until they got their justice. In a case like Trump without any previous legal cases in the case of a (obvious) corrupt president, it might take 10-16 years. So 2026-2032. He knows this. His whole corrupt Trump Inc. it’s based on a slow justice system. He actively tries too stretch it out as long as possible to have as many options he can (e.g. Reelection for a dictatormode).

I know how you and everyone feels. It is tiresome and disappointing that there is no swift justice. But there never is swift justice. Because Justice needs indisputable legal standing. Hitting someone or steal money does not. That the J6 Coup Attempt of 2021 saw rulings in 22/23 is alsmost light speed for a federal justice level. But the evidence was there, people were convicted in the past for this in many cases and that thing had congressional hearings. The case for Trump is much more difficult to unfold. He is guilty and a working justice system will confirm it, but it will be unbearable long. Better getting used to it. Swift justice does not exist only lynching justice. That is quick, but has no legal standing.

Everyone who said we will see him in prison in 2016-2020 was just as a dummy as the “Lock her up”-Crowd. They think trump could have thrown her in jailsg personally on his first day. Turns out: he didnt. He never did. He did not even get close. He did not even pursued it (as it was all just lies to his minions). Because justice takes time. The bigger the case the more time it takes. Locking up a (former) president hopefully will always take years to justify. Else you would be on one level with an autocratic system like china/iran/saudiarabia where nothing is real as “justice” is what the current leader defines as such and everything is based on arbitrariness.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

This is a civil suit. Jail isn't involved for this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll delay things until he dies of old age, then throw up their hands.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll handcuff his skeleton after that

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They should. I mean they dug up a pope then beat him with sticks and hung his corpse. Just prop Trump up on the national Mall for a few days after he dies and let everyone line up with sticks.
Hell, I'd throw some money at a ticket.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It’d sure help pay down some debts if they charge for it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really not understand the process here or are you just venting?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This guy has been criming since before he was elected. I'll be honest, no I don't understand the process that has kept him out of jail for seven years. I don't understand how this process can be called justice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I do not know. In my life time. Clinton happened, GorevBush happened, 9/11 happened, Iraq/Afghanistan happened, 2008 happened, the Tea Party happened, Trump happened, COVID happened.

And people are still unsure what to do and what the right moves are. We need better politicians, where the fuck are they?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you familiar with Douglas Adams?

The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.

To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.

To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

- The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They won’t take bribes, so they get blacklisted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is a civil suit, not a criminal indictment