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Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of "Wayland breaking everything" isn't really accurate.

"In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!"

Nate's Original Blog Post

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wayland has fixed so many head-scratching issues I would get running 6 monitors on 2 GPUs under X11. I'd often end up with missing monitors, placed in wrong spots that I'd have to rearrange every reboot until an update would come through that would fix it again for a few months, then all over again.

Since I moved to wayland, everything just works. When it doesn't, it's not a display server issue, it's something physical. I just had a couple monitors fail to show up and thought "oh hell, it's back to this, eh". But I open the tower, seat the offending GPU better, and everything comes up like normal, and all the screens are in the right position, it just remembers.

Anyone that thinks X11 is still superior probably runs on a laptop with a single screen.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

man it crazy I switched to Wayland on my laptop and docking to 3 monitors just worked on Wayland and it would remember all my monitors settings

I hand like 2 or 3 scripts setup to try and manage that on x11

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I mean I'm fully with you on the fact screen autodetect isn't stellar on X but there's no need to exaggerate with "2 or 3 scripts". It's one xrandr command.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And I'm sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.

Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you'd even mention it in this context?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two monitors with different refresh rates is very common. Think laptop connected to a bigger monitor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have 2 75hz and a 240hz. It's been alright for me on kde and x11. Although, I do want to give this Wayland thing a shot after hearing it being brought up so many times

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

3 monitors is probably a lot more common than you think.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Since it's probably reasonably rare it's a good demonstration of the stability of Wayland. It makes sense to mention it imo

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Ultra wide for cheap is one of uses