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Cars that won't spy on you?
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No such animal exists. They’re all rolling data collection machines.
https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/
I drive a bolt. To somewhat minimize the GM evil, I don’t have the GM app installed and I didn’t give the Bluetooth connection access to anything but Apple CarPlay. Of course if you’re a real privacy purist, you don’t have a smartphone and don’t use Bluetooth anyway.
If you want a car with privacy, you’ll have to buy an old car without a computer.
If you remove their cellular mouths, they won't be able to scream.
Or you could just get a bicycle and be free
Cars have been required to have computers since 1996.
Computer - yes, in the technical term. Traditional car ECUs don't gather data, GPS, driving habits, etc. and phone home though. Also, as another user said, the regulations starting in 96 were for OBD2 ports. Cars already had computers before then.
In addition, the issue is arguably less the collection of data, and more the ability for the car to actually send that data somewhere.
Yep. You want the car to collect telementry data for help in diagnosing issues as needed. That's not at all the issue, and nobody would be mad if the companies treated the data with respect.
Unfortunately that's not going to happen unless legislation forces it to.
E: sp
Don't pretend you don't understand the distinction between what was ostensibly mandated in '96 and what we currently have
It's not my fault people don't know what computers are.
Right, so you'll keep pretending that the computers in cars in '96 are the exact same as what's being talked about just because you're a pedantic twat who can't admit you're wrong?
Only if you promise to keep getting really worked up about it.
Yes, trembling in my boots at the sheer anger here
Edit: lol was it you who went and downvoted all my recent comments?
See? Now you're paranoid, too.
Cars have been required to have an OBDII port to access vehicle diagnostics since 1996*
What do you think the ODBII reads codes from?
Any car that did not already have a computer was required to have one from that point forward.