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Unsurprisingly, some folks on raddle and reddit seem to have a big problem with lemmy. A lot of it is pure FUD.

However, this appears to be a valid security concern:

https://raddle.me/f/fediverse/166674/lemmy-is-so-much-like-email-it-even-brought-back-spy-tracker

Any thoughts on how fixable this is?

Of course the general consensus on reddit is "lemmy devs are clueless and dangerous". I'm pretty sure a lot of it is one guy with multiple alt accounts, tho. He has a Joe McCarthy attitude about lemmy because of one of the primary devs.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is unrelated to the post itself but I really hope Lemmy and the fediverse as a whole don't start using terms like FUD that originated with Crypto. Crypto went exceptionally badly and was wrought with scams and we should be doing as much as possible to distance ourself from that.

Edit: I'll take my losses here. The term is much older than it's recent use in popular culture despite my own lack of experience hearing it prior. I do however stand by wanting to distance from the cryptocurrency crowd as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

terms like FUD that originated with Crypto

Just because you first saw it in regards to crypto doesn't mean that's where it originated from.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Thanks. Not a fan of guilt by association of this type. The idea of FUD has been around for decades. It's not inherently crypto or inherently anything. It's just a useful acronym for a tactic some people use.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

FUD has been around way longer than Twitter

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I meant specifically the shortened version FUD which became popular because of Bitcoin and Twitters limited letter count. Talking about fear uncertainty and doubt all together is definitely not a new idea.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

FUD has been a term since the 1970s. It has nothing to do with crypto

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

specifically the shortened version FUD

Here's from the '70s:

"The search for self". Clothes. New York, NY, USA: PRADS, Inc. 10 (14–24): 19. 1975-10-01. Retrieved 2011-06-10. […] One of the messages dealt with is FUD—the fear, uncertainty and doubt on the part of customer and sales person alike that stifles the approach and greeting. […]

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FUD was around from the Slashdot era.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol. FUD predates the internet.

Someone else linked the wikipedia entry. First coined as an acronym when IBM was protecting its mainframe from competition by Amdahl butthre phrase goes back to the 20s

Edit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

How young are you? FUD did not originate with Crypto. And crypto-means-cryptography-fight-me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

To be fair to FUD, it has its own much longer annoying history way before crypto.