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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really wish we could get actual apples to apples "mass shooting" comparisons. Everything from the site you linked to Wikipedia has been restructured to help make the argument that the US has tons of "mass shootings."

Take this entry near me from that list you linked https://www.cleveland19.com/2023/12/04/cleveland-police-more-than-dozen-people-shot-several-stabbed-over-weekend/

The 4 people shot, there's no context as to whether that was random, gang violence, stray bullets in a conflict, etc. This sort of thing almost definitely happens outside of the US, e.g., https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisakim/2021/10/22/swedens-brutal-gang-problem-heres-what-officials-blame-it-on/?sh=6bb1d29fa281

In this particular case it's something that happened at 3 in the morning outside of a bar... Gang or not it was probably more drunken brawl where someone pulled a gun and things went bad fast.

That's pretty different from some person going to a university, a school, a public event, and unloading on anyone they see with intent to inflict as many casualties as possible on someone that they've never even spoken a word to ... which is what I remember a "mass shooting" meaning up until recently. And that shit doesn't happen 23 times in a single month. It happens a few times a year which given the size of the US is much more comparable (granted I think still elevated) when compared to European mass shootings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Bro, come on. Sweden has a population of 10.42 million and they had a drop in gun violence from 62 homicides in 2022 to 42 in 2023. https://www.statista.com/chart/30946/annual-number-of-fatal-shootings-in-sweden/

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/10/31/1209683893/how-the-u-s-gun-violence-death-rate-compares-with-the-rest-of-the-world It's not even a close comparison.

Quit making bad faith arguments to defend the US, our gun crimes are super preventable.