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Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.

The document from the Vatican’s doctrine office, released Monday, elaborates on a letter Francis sent to two conservative cardinals that was published in October. In that preliminary response, Francis suggested such blessings could be offered under some circumstances if they didn’t confuse the ritual with the sacrament of marriage.

The new document repeats that rationale and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong sacrament between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union, using set rituals or even with the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.

But it says requests for such blessings should not be denied full stop. It offers an extensive definition of the term “blessing” in Scripture to insist that people seeking a transcendent relationship with God and looking for his love and mercy should not be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” as a precondition for receiving it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (36 children)

more equivalent legally

This is a straw man. The pope's decision is about a religious issue, not a legal issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (35 children)

Except married couples get legal benefits that actually matter in reality that same-sex couples don't get. So its not a strawman. It is shit that actually happens to real people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (21 children)

You don't get legal beneficts from having a religious marriage. Only for a legal marriage, that is always possible unless your state is a behind hell hole

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Furthermore, it has always been possible to get a religious wedding (certain churches only), even before it could be a legal marriage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Entirely depends on where you live. Where I do, that is illegal to the extent that it simply has no value. You just don't show as married to the state, and you will get in a burocracy mess if you try to do ANYTHING as a couple

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The value would be, that church considers you married in the eyes of God, irrelevant of what human laws say. Not that I believe in any such god, but I remember gay people who got married in their Quaker church, and within their spiritual circle they were treated as married like any other married couple. Of course it didn't count for anything in the secular world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Of course meant a civil value. Of course in the religion that marriage has been practiced tp it will have its own spiritual one.

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