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Apps that shouldn't be Subscriptions (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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What is the most useless app that you have seen being given as a subscription?

For me, I tried a 'minimalist' launcher app for Android that had a 7 day trial or something and they had a yearly subscription based model for it. I was aghast. I would literally expect the app to blow my mind and do everything one can assume to go that way. In a world, where Nova Launcher (Yes, I know it has been acquired by Branch folks but it still is a sturdy one) or Niagara exist plus many alternatives including minimalist ones on F Droid, the dev must be releasing revolutionary stuff to factor in a subscription service.

Second, is a controversial choice, since it's free tier is quite good and people like it so much. But, Pocketcasts. I checked it's yearly price the other day, and boy, in my country, I can subscribe to Google Play Pass, YouTube Premium and Spotify and still have money left before I hit the ceiling what Pocketcasts is asking for paid upgrade.

Also, what are your views on one time purchase vs subscriptions? Personally, I find it much easier to purchase, if it's good enough even if it was piratable, something if it is a one time purchase rather than repetitive.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to find the right balance. I know I only want to pay once, or heck never, but I want these upgrades and updates too.

Personally, I'd love a "buy this version" option, where you can just pay once, and get a version that doesn't recieve updates, and I could then choose to subscribe to the "live" version from there.

Of course, this would just blow back in company's faces when it comes to the "average" user, who would be a total fucking idiot and harass support about not getting updates they didn't pay for

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There’s actually quite a lot of software that monetises similarly to what you’re proposing. DxO and Ableton, just off the top of my head. Millions of happy users between those 2.

You get minor version updates for “free” (included in the one-time purchase). Upgrades to the next major version are discounted. Don’t need the features in the next major version? Stick with what you have for however long it works for you.

It’s by far my favourite model because it allows the developers to get paid, whilst not squeezing my neck. Everyone’s happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I generally have little need for paid software since I don't (or more accurately, can't) do any work at home, so it figures I wasn't aware of what's out there lol. The closest thing I use is cracked office. Because yeah, that payment type sounds pretty good, so long as releases are priced reasonably.

I figure a big difficulty is deciding on "major releases" vs rolling incremental development. If they're going to sell major releases, they actually need to be able to consistently make pretty sizable upgrades, and not just "streamlined a couple menus, big fixes" type updates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they actually need to be able to consistently make pretty sizeable upgrades

Precisely! It keeps them honest. Furthermore, it forces closing the feedback loop with users. Developers need to understand what features users want most, and what bugs or usability issues need to be prioritised. Not listening to feedback means no future revenue, simple as that.

The subscription model does none of that. It’s just a greedy money-grab.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I disagree that major version updates equates to keeping them honest. Not everything needs major overhauls every few years. You can have a perfectly closed feedback loop, and still fail to sell people on buying 5.0.0 when 4.7.12 is still good enough, and recieved the little things that matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You fail to sell when you fail to timely implement desirable features. And you fail to prioritise properly when you disregard or misinterpret feedback.

None of this is better mitigated by subscription models.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Are you just talking to hear yourself speak?