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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My local supermarket isn't producing most of the products it has on its shelves, so fuck them too I guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Good counter-point, except that your local supermarket has to respect three separate market pressures that Google (edit: to be clear, I mean YouTube) clearly has no regard for:

  • Tight regulations.
  • Respecting its consumers.
  • Robust competition that isn't prone to monopolistic enterprise.

So no, I don't feel that we should 'fuck them, too I guess' because when I go to the supermarket I feel like I'm the customer, not the product. I feel that I get what I'm paying for and that my time is respected. Nothing about YouTube leaves me feeling like that. There's no sense that I'm a respected customer and therein no sense that there's any value in trying to respect a clearly one-sided relationship.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Supermarkets use extensive marketing to trick you in buying all kinds of stuff. Just like Google (ahem, YouTube) does.

But you want their stuff, so you have to deal with their stuff.

We can discuss further on the subject of tracking that happens when you are a regular and have a membership, or the tracking of digital transactions. Even if you and I don't necessarily partake in that by buying everything with cash to stay as anonymous as possible.

I could ask you to clarify how you feel "respected" in that environment, but I have honestly little interest in the answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I feel respected because I grab the product I want, take it to the register, and pay for it and get the result that I expect based on what I paid. Marketing and manipulation aside, I acknowledge that's part of being an educated consumer. I'd thank you for putting value in my response, but I'm not interested either.