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New Yorkers march on Wall St. to demand an end to US funding of Israel : Peoples Dispatch (peoplesdispatch.org)
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People in New York City once again took to the streets to demand a permanent ceasefire in Israel’s war on Gaza and an end US aid to Israel. Protesters marched from Foley Square to NYC City Hall, Wall Street, and Washington Square Park to raise their demands. The protest took place as the United Nations Security Council was voting on a ceasefire resolution, which was vetoed by the United States.

The protest was called for by the Shut It Down for Palestine Coalition, composed of several organizations including the International Peoples’ Assembly, the Palestinian Youth Movement, the ANSWER Coalition, and National Students for Justice in Palestine, and dozens of other local New York City organizations.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (5 children)

We can only send thoughts and prayers to the kids dying of school shootings in our country, why do we need to fund a religious war on the other side of the world? I am seriously asking what benefit it is to the US?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Every bullet fired, every bomb dropped, is money in the bank for American military corporations. War = $$$

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You'd think so, but then the same logic should apply to Ukraine right?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

AIPAC owns American politicians. Ukraine doesn’t

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah, fair point... And don't forget the russian assets in the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Russia owns Republicans

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Both can be true. We can have a just war that prints money for bad people.

The war in Israel, however, is a bad war printing money for bad people.

Frankly, I don't really understand how a privatized military industrial complex is not a blow to national security. You'd think we'd want more cost-effective munitions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the CIA say Ukraine blew up Russia's Nordstream pipeline (which carries Russian oil to Europe)?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't get the downvoted, I'm not sure about the CIA but the telegraph has stated the same from their own investigation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah the cia are the ones who said their info points to a Ukraine operation. Ukraine denies it but again, according to the cia report, some state actor did it.

I'm not worried about downvotes. :) as far as i know it's not like reddit where comments get hidden so meh, and With all the disinfo out there sometimes people get a little reactionary. Its nbd

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

It is not a religious war. Was it a religious war when the indigenous peoples elsewhere fought against the invaders? Palestinians are no less passionate about their land than the Lakota or Zulu.

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Gaza has oil. That’s all it’s ever about.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The Middle East in general has oil and Israel is our main base over there basically, being an ally in the region. They give us a zone of control. (Also Turkey but Israel is easier to control and it's good to have backups.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Turkey isn’t a reliable ally in the same way Israel is. Turkey is a relatively large country that has the capacity to act fully independently of any great power, and occasionally does. Israel is much smaller and can only sustain itself with US and EU support. A sanctions package like what has been applied to Russia would likely cripple Israel and see it wiped off the map rather quickly, so they have no choice but to stay on side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Israel is also where a large percentage of our medical equipment and I think drugs too are from.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Oil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I was under the impression that there were resources in that area that the US currently has privileged access to because of their alliances there. So they have a stake in making their allies come out on top.