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Beeper reverse-engineered iMessage to bring blue bubble texts to Android users::The push to bring iMessage to Android users today adds a new contender. A startup called Beeper, which had been working on a multi-platform messaging

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Android to Android, sure.

But Apple and Google refuse to play nicely with each other, so Android to Iphone or Iphone to Android both suck.

It's not a lack of capability, it's the refusal to implement it to try and force users to pick a side.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

But Apple and Google refuse to play nicely with each other, so Android to Iphone or Iphone to Android both suck.

Yeah this is a gross mischaracterization of the situation.

  1. Google is more than happy to "play nicely" with Apple. They're the ones who convinced Apple to adopt RCS. Apple is the one holding out.

  2. They totally do "play nicely" on literally every messenger app in existence except iMessage, which is the only SMS app you're allowed to use on iOS. This is not any sort of hardware or software limitation, this is purely greed from Apple to control their users and create a walled garden, to the detriment of their own customers.

This entire shitty situation is 100% on Apple and their users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, Google’s messaging plans and implementations have been all over the place for a decade. Apple still should have been more proactive. They promised iMessage would come to Android until they realized how much of a moat it became for their business.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Apple has no obligation to use any of Google's or Google's preferred communication standards. They can open up the iMessage protocol or they can use literally any other open standards (like Signal's).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google chat, or whatever they call it now, fixed that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

If you're talking about RCS, androids newer native messaging system, no apple has not implemented that yet.

There has always been dozens of messaging apps users can use, including Google Chat, but they are all seprate apps that both you and the recipient have to choose to install and use. That's the main problem.

The goal is to have the native messaging apps on both platforms be able to speak to each other with the same quality right out of the box, just as they can within the same platform right now (apple to apple, and android to android).