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Community health check-in | November 2023 (programming.dev)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Starting up a new monthly post where I look at the communities in the instance to see how well all of them are doing

From this we should be able to see what communities are struggling so that they can be focused on for adding activity across the instance

My goal for december will be increasing the amount of communities that appear in the active and moderate sections and will compare to see the activity change then

For community activity levels im breaking this into 5 categories (note these stats are based on the new users/month stats in the instance)

  • Lively- 5k users/month or above
  • Active - 201-4999 users/month
  • Moderate - 51-200 users/month
  • Quiet - 11-50 users/month
  • Dead - 0-10

Communities in each category

  • Lively communities: 2 (1%)
  • Active communities: 11 (6%)
  • Moderate communities: 27 (15%)
  • Quiet communities: 45 (25%)
  • Dead communities: 92 (52%)

Most active communities

Least active communities

(These are ones that will be prioritized for making active) (theres a lot in the dead category so these are random ones from that, not all of them)

One other community that should be interesting to see the growth is the advent of code community as that is about to start

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currently at 136 but I assume thats going to grow much larger

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But this only means that the people on Lemmy.world don't get to see the content posted by alien.top users. People on alien.top will still be able and participate on programming.dev normally...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It means that the alien.top users won't be able to see the content posted by a plurality of users on lemmy instances. About 40% of activity on lemmy instances is from lemmy.world. And many of the communities that are stand-ins for subreddits are on lemmy.world.

It's a poor initial experience to lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It means that the alien.top users won’t be able to see the content posted by a plurality of users on lemmy instances

alien.top is still able to see content from LW.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I mixed that up. But it's not really better to have a significant portion of accounts not be able to see your posts or comments or be able to leave posts or comments on a large portion of the posts and comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A counterpoint would be: now that alien.top is not mirroring content anymore, LW now has no actual reason to keep it defederated, and the more "organic" users there, the more legitimate it becomes.

I was saying from the beginning that the accounts would eventually be taken over by their owners, now that this is starting to happen, do you think that is fair to penalize the instance because it was successful?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's hard to regain trust, but it's possible. I think your intentions are good and communication is the best way to improve on an unfortunate situation.

That said, it's a very poor introduction to a new environment to be unknowingly thrown into a conflict on the side with little leverage and no understanding why the experience is so inconsistent with likely expectations, which is that one would be able to interact with the posts and comments they see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

unknowingly thrown into a conflict on the side with little leverage

It will be hilarious if the LW mods start to believe that they have any "leverage" because they have 12k MAU and that they can start to arbitrarily federate or block instances. Hilarious, I say...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It seems like you're taking this statement very personally. It was meant to describe the circumstances from a detached perspective (mine). The value of an account on alien.top is much more heavily influenced by lemmy.world than the other way around currently.

You really should try to talk to them, it would help both instances and the experience of users on lemmy instances in general if you could bridge the rift that currently exists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nothing is happening on alien.top. Set if to 'local' and 'comments' and there is a handful of comments from the last hour and before that it was 13 days ago

'successful'