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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (7 children)

What should we do about it? Other than vote and try to talk people out of voting for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Basically, this coming election will be decided by the margins because almost everyone who follows politics–at all–knows who they're voting for already.

Think about the number of people who follow politics and then understand that those people are already not the demographic that will likely decide the outcome. It's the people who are surprised they Joe Biden and Donald Trump are on the ballot that matter.

It isn't worth trying to pressured persuade either the right or the left. What we need is to activate and engage the non-participating section of the electorate. This is hard, but achievable. It's people who work multiple jobs and don't have time for politics that need to know it matters if they vote. Civil rights are not a given and 2024 will be hugely consequential.

Take your friends with you on election day! Register for vote by mail and bug your friends too! Take about it and don't leave easy points on the table. Yes the options are terrible. Yes one of them will make the possibility of improving it ever infinitely more difficult.

The people saying it doesn't matter do not understand what they stand to lose. It is so so much harder to build something than tear it down and our imperfect institutions will not save us. Politics matters and the luxury of not caring, will lead to co-optation and the loss of rights that are easy to take for granted now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Target reluctant republicans that don't like Trump but so far are only willing to abstain. I'm pushing hard for them to send the strongest message they can by voting for Biden. I think if we plant enough seeds they may go for it in the privacy of the voting booth, even if they won't admit it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is possible, my kermudgen grandfather began voting blue in 2016 because of Trump

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Technically it's spelled curmudgeon, but your spelling makes me think of Kermit as a grumpy old frog-man so I think I prefer it 😆

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

T'is not an inaccurate description of ma gramps

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's it. That's the best we have short of organizing mass mass protests and raids. Which definitely isn't going to happen.

Maybe Trump will have a heart attack before the election...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Young people need to register. Help them!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Fight disenfranchisement and jerrymandering. Fight voter suppression. Be loud and get in the way of people doing bad things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yup, vote, and call out any of the children larping revolutionaries who refuse to vote

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Fuckin' privs drive me up the damn wall. They act like they're taking some noble stand for the palestinian people, meanwhile me the actual fucking palestinian am staring down the barrel of having to go without my Keffiyeh in public lest I get beaten, called a Sand N****r, and told to be grateful the bastards who did it to me didn't bring a rope, all on the back of their militant refusal to lift a finger in solidarity and vote against Trump.

These so called allies of my people seem to like me much more as a potential martyr for their cause than as an agent for my own.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't you guys have book depositories any more?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

As long as there's a royal family and house of lords...