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"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not clinging to the Democratic Party. I’m simply aware of how first past the post voting works.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That just tells you there can only be two dominant parties. Which parties are those two can change. Those who keep supporting democrats are still the ones preventing it from being another party. If it not democrats, it would be a different one...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’ll bet you any amount of money that either Dems or reps win the next election. How much would you like to wager?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd bet its not democrats if people stopped voting for them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe I wasn’t clear.

I’ll bet you any amount you like that no third party wins the next election. You game?

The fact that no one ever takes me up on this shows y’all fucking know I’m right but don’t want to admit it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they won, they would no longer be a third party. If democrats became a third party, another party would become first party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s why I worded it the way I did the first time.

I bet you $1000 that either the Democrat or the Republican wins the next presidential election.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is disagreeing about that. Its irrelevant to the topic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It directly contradicts your claim that another party can win.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can: the two statements are not contradictory. You're making more specific claims unrelated to the topic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They "can".

The sun "could" explode tomorrow and kill us all.

But neither will happen and we both know it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you agree that saying the sun can explode tomorrow and saying it probably won't is not contradictory, right? This contradicts your own points.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t forget the last part.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which doesn't change the fact that it is not contradictory like you claim it to be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey while you’re here, you wanna bet the $1000 I offered the other guy?

I could use the money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, you don't understand what contradictory means. Does saying the sun can explode tomorrow and saying it has a low chance of doing so contradictory? Similarly, saying a third party can win if people switch their votes away from the Dems is not contradictory to saying there is a low chance of that happening.

You're doing a logical fallacy by assuming that statements made about possible alternative events are equivalent to statements that claim the event is likely to happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll take that as a no. I wouldn’t take the bet either as we know it won’t happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You're still talking about odds as if it has anything to do with my point. What's the point of replying if you don't even understand the point you're arguing against? Talking to you is like talking to a flat earther. They also like to cling to a single point without actually addressing the actual point people are bringing up.