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The head canons are insane lmfao.
If a progressive school is sending you to the office for saying Christmas, they’re probably just going to have a chat about being more progressive with our well wishes to include everyone.
You wanna exclude people that’s fine, but don’t label the people trying to be the most kind as insane or assholes. lol.
A progressive school wouldn’t even do that in the first place, because it’s the surest way to get the ever living shit sued out of you over 1A because of one disgruntled parent
happy holidays isn't more inclusive, it's just generic. i feel included in a community when they salute me as they would with one of their own
Which is what you’d use if you didn’t know what religion they practice if at all
Otherwise, sensibly, you’d wish them a happy whatever it is they celebrate.
Not everyone is cool with having their religion assumed on so it’s not “generic” it’s respectful
I don't know. a Muslim once saluted me with the end of Ramadan holyday. that day i met a friend. parted ways, we still greet each other when we meet. dude did not assume anything about me, he just wanted to share and make friends. being greeted with one's culture and being not ok with it, it means you're not an educated person.
I would rather be seen for my own culture and values and not mislabeled
Moral of the story in case you couldn’t tell from the chunk of downvotes your original post received, people would rather receive a “generic” holiday greeting than to be stereotypically labeled with a religion, or constantly have someone rubbing their faith in your face if you aren’t religious at all.
“Generic” holiday greeting is more likely to convey:
“I wish you happy times this holiday season, whatever you do or don’t celebrate”
As opposed to walking up to a Muslim dude and wish them a happy Ramadan off some shallow ass judgements. Alternatively, wishing me a merry Kwanzaa or a Merry Hanukkah, while it may be important to you, means nothing to me at all. That wish doesn’t have roots. So to me, you’re just a shallow person who doesn’t actually want me to enjoy my holiday time, you just want to cheer for your team.
Edit: fuck it I’ll bite, pray tell what’s your current religion after meeting your friend?
you'd say I'm an atheist. I'm from Italy, where catholicism still heavily influences society. someone in this thread said that my opinion is valid only for me, while you judged and actually insulted me. there's no conversation in this place. may I know where you're from?
Where in my comments have I insulted you, I strive to keep things civil and a form of discussion, insults just hurt feelings and don’t really contribute to conversation - not at all my intentions.
you said I'm a shallow person and that is an insult, because you also said it in a derivative meaning, inside a derogative context, spending a lot of words to get to that point. but I don't care: it says nothing about myself, adds nor takes anything; while instead screams about your (online?) person.
so where are you from? you can answer that's none of my business
This is just flat out a lie, I never called you shallow.
Your opinion only applies to you.
as do yours.
Unless you’re actually speaking on behalf of a growing, popular group which has very obviously made their opinion known and yet you try to muddy the waters.
group? waters? what are you talking about?
This person was clearly telling you that your opinion is in the minority, that most people morally/ethically would rather use a general or generic greeting to make you feel the most comfortable.
Guessing wrong at someone’s religion or wishing them a happy religious holiday that they don’t spend is substantially less effective at wishing someone well wishes. It’s as simple as that. What’s even better is knowing that persons religion and wishing them a happy holiday for them specifically.
But again, we and the post itself, are talking about for general purposes where you may or may not know the persons religious preferences. I hope this makes things clearer, I’m not upset or angry or trying to hurt you. Just trying to make what is seemingly (according to this thread) the popular opinion clearer in an attempt to discuss a silly topic of “how best to greet someone around the holidays”