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[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

After the clusterfuck of Cyberpunk? CDPR is now Bethesda 10 years ago. I have no expectations for this game.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They botched a release, worked their arses off and fixed their mistake, and released a well received dlc after focusing on that. The fucking horror.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cyberpunk 2077 is now a really fucking good game. Seriously. Play it nowadays. It's very much a NMS story.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TW3 is a really fucking good game. CP2077 is fine, better than it was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like Cyberpunk a lot better than the Witcher. It's a much better shooter than the Witcher is a hack and slash.

The Witcher is better in terms of world building and story choices, but gameplay? It's no contest to me. The swordplay in the Witcher isn't good, and spells, grenades, and oils are mostly just passwords to memorize for different monsters that don't really play different

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter. We're not comparing two mechanics. Cyberpunk is not a narrow shooter like Quake 3 or something like that. Both are tremendously ambitious games and both should be judged as a whole. Awards, recognition and cultural legacy of TW3 speak for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're comparing subjective things.

Which means subjective opinions are allowed to exist. The Witcher is not an objectively better game than Cyberpunk. You like it better. You don't have the right to say someone is wrong for enjoying a game that has gameplay that isn't terrible more than a game that does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don’t have the right to say

And who are you to say what rights I have? Stay on the topic or stay quiet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I am entirely on topic.

You're the one telling someone he's wrong about something opinion based because he values actual gameplay in a video game. That is not a statement that is capable of having legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That speaks a lot about the dev Commitments but the lore is simply not at the same standard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What did you expect? Witcher is based on a book series and CP77 is based on a TTRPG.

The books have a lot more lore already written than you can expect of a TTRPG.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes.. But there are people who professionally do this. Worldbuilders. They are clearly material dependent. Witcher 4 will probably meet the high expectations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes… But there are people who professionally do this. Worldbuilders. They are clearly material dependent.

Of course they are. World builders can only spend so long on one given project, and have to tie their work in with prior material, then on a sequel they get a chance to explain events in the time gap as well as expand on more bits.

Look at the Elder Scrolls series. A lot of the lore in Skyrim was written nearly 20 years before the release of that game. And Oblivion massively expanded on things introduced in Daggerfall

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Witcher 3 had a bad release as well

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

You see, this is good. Unhealthy expectations from CP2077 were part of the problem.