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In my opinion, this should be illegal or businesses fined. Their drive thru leaks onto public infrastructure (the road) reducing its throughput and potentially creating a dangerous situation.
Judging by the cordoned off parking spaces, I'm assuming this photo is from a COVID measure.
There are many Tim Hortons drive thrus leaking into the streets from pre covid to post covid.
If the shittiness of Tom Hortons coffee isn't going to stop people using the drive-through, I don't know what legislation is going to do. /s
Things I think have a legitimate use case to retain drive-throughs: Car-washes, Oil changes, Tire changes, gas stations. Basically anything where the car is what is being worked on.
Same with the Wendy's here.
Yes, it should be illegal. This happens with all the cult-y fast foods places out here. In N Out, Whataburger, Hate Chicken (aka Chick fil A), Dutch Bros, etc.
Parking, getting out, and going inside will easily save you 50%+ wait time.
Weren't parking minimums supposed to prevent this? :-D
Then again, the worse the traffic jams the more people may consider alternatives.
I don’t understand Dutch bros. I guess if you prefer a lil coffee in your choccy milk, then it’s the place to go
They actually reworked a parking lot here a couple times to extend their lanes so it didn't fuck anything up. Probably depends on city and location, but they can't really control assholes that are willing to fuck you for some tendies.
They absolutely can do something about it.
Make it illegal to block the road to use a drive thru, the problem is much like many other traffic laws, it will rarely be enforced.
Chick-fil-a can't make it illegal. Blocking traffic already is illegal I'd imagine.
If anyone's going to get a fine there it would really be the individuals. While the business is creating the demand, there isn't really any process they could put in place to stop people lining out onto the road.
Also, if we were going to forbid it, what would be the substantive difference with forbidding just parking on the public road? Which, yeah, that's definitely a conversation we should have and a direction we should move towards—it'd probably have a greater effect anyway. But it's not clear that there's really a great mechanism for specifically banning queueing.
Drive thrus should simply be illegal and that would solve the issue.
Yeah that'd be reasonable.
What really annoys me is that it's pretty obvious that places will prioritise the drive-through over in-store customers. You can go in and watch car after car get served at the window while you wait for your meal.
The drive thru is perfect for the fast food owner. Most of the time they dont have to worry about guests using tables, using the washrooms, dirtying the floors etc. It processes the customer and gets them off their property faster.
Perfect for the owner, a complete waste of resources for everyone else... Hard to make a choice
Yeah go ahead and get right on that. Be sure to tell Congress and the President of the USA that is the priority they need to be working on.
The USA isn't the only country in the world so you take care of your shit in your own country and seeing the number of omnibus bills that pass Congress, I'm sure it could very easily pass without anyone noticing, just like most stupid laws do in your country.
Sure, go ahead and get right on that like I said.