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[–] [email protected] 160 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Please start with banning crosses as wall decoration in bavarian public authorities

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

That's how I know this law will absolutely be used to target specific religions unless the fundamentalist Christians take it too far.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Would be too funny to see Markus SΓΆder's face if this would actually happen. "DeClInE oF tHe OcCiDeNt" or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I mean he did argue that they aren't a religious symbol before. He later contradicted himself and said that they are but I would not be surprised if he made that stupid argument again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think they are already illegal by the Grundgesetz and Bavaria is just Bavaria and do whatever they want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

illegal by the Grundgesetz

Hm, what Article would that be?
Unfortunately the separation of state and church is not very thorough in Germany.

And then there is Article 4

Article 4 [Freedom of faith and conscience]
(1) Freedom of faith and of conscience and freedom to profess a religious or philosophical creed shall be inviolable.
(2) The undisturbed practice of religion shall be guaranteed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Article 4 does indeed ban it.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kruzifix-Beschluss https://www.sueddeutsche.de/bayern/kruzifix-urteil-bayern-jubilaeum-1.4906155

Bavaria is indeed violating the constitution here. There's merely not much done to enforce it here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Lol no, they'll take Quebec's lead and claim that those symbols are part of their "unique cultural heritage" and therefore exempt

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Wonder how they'll cope here in rural Austria.