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Passengers who booked trips have been told refunds will be issued in monthly installments

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Life at Sea Cruises' first three-year sailing was announced in March and promised passengers willing to fork out at least $29,999 per year

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Cruises oughta be banned for how polluting they are. Rich folks can have em back when theyve cleaned up their climate mess.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No they may not. We acknowledge they’re filthy, rife with noro and other viruses, and aside from other pollution, dump raw sewage into open water.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Acquaintance went on a cruise. I made "covid cruise" jokes before he left. Well he came back and guess what.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Said I told you so without saying I told you so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I went on a cruise before COVID. The cruise line stressed washing hands to the point that it became annoying. (They have a "washy washy happy happy" song that they sing.) They had good reason to even before COVID as norovirus spreads like wildfire on cruise ships.

Overall, my cruise was a fun experience, but I don't think I'd do it again - even setting COVID concerns aside. I'd rather go to some destination and walk around seeing the sights than be trapped on a giant boat with all those people.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

when theyve cleaned up their climate mess.

Ah, a doe eyed optimist, I see.

This oligarch party ain't stopping until everything that can burn does. At this point hope is irrational, a side effect of rational despair.

No one tells the wealth class anything. They tell us, and we obey like good lil capital generating livestock.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

The old gods must die. Clash of the titans time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Apart from the areas others have mentioned they are also absolutely terrible for the local environment due to the number of tourists they drop on an area. We should ban them for that alone

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Rich folks

Cruises are often cheaper than just going on vacation.

My honeymoon cruise was less expensive than if we'd just flown to the Caribbean and stayed at an all-inclusive hotel.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nations won’t stop using oil as long as it is economically viable.

Banning cruise ships doesn't matter if we still burn up the oil anyways.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are correct. Not using oil in one place, will only make it MORE AFFORDABLE for China and other mega pollution providers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Except 1) we sent our rubbish there and dumped it in the water, air and dirt, and it doesn’t stay put, 2) it doesn’t stay put, 3) we sent manufacturing there to avoid paying people minimum, let alone livable wage. How shallow thinking is amazes me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

we sent manufacturing there to avoid paying people minimum, let alone livable wage

This is a good thing for the people of both nations tho

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It very objectively is. Their people stop subsistence farming and our people get cheaper goods.

It's not like we're hurting for jobs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now they get suicide nets and we get three jobs and a side hustle. That’s so disingenuous and just because fash lite party said it doesn’t make it okay to parrot it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sorry do you want a factory job? I can get you one no problem. I work in corporate for a large manufacturer.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just saying we have way more jobs than people in mfg, which is why I said "it's not like we're hurting for jobs"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Probably because those jobs mostly suck and treat humans as machinery. *edited out tmi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't follow - you don't want things to be manufactured?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I want the people to own the means of production.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's not ever going to happen.

Certainly not any time soon.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What the h does that have to do with anything?

Fact of the current global economy is: you buy less oil (etc), other will snatch it up very quickly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but facts remain facts. Lots of good things you can do for nature but spending less oil just for the heck of it will probably mean some other country WITHOUT FILTERS IN THEIR CHIMNEYS will use it, at Lower price.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And that’s an old paradigm that must die. I rebuke your negativity. We have the power but some would deceive us into thinking we’re bound. I rebuke that too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but it's a real life situation that you won't admit too. Other ways are needed between "saving" and banning

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I didn’t say it isn’t. It’s sad that not only are we post-implicit and post-explicit communication. Thank you, Southern Strategy!

And that’s an old paradigm that must die.

Paradigm means “pattern” or “model.” I can’t think of any one syllable words to make it easier than that.