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I guess that means it's dead, as there's no way a corporation would pay millions to acquire a competitor just to continue developing a free alternative to their own product

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Ooooor it will become a free vs corporate solution like RedHat and the likes do.
Portainer also does it for example. I think LDAP-Auth is paywalled but it makes sense that features like that are.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think LDAP-Auth is paywalled but it makes sense that features like that are

It does not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes! As soon as your homelab grows above a couple of services and especially if it's used by two or more people SSO becomes an absolute necessity! The tolerance of non-technical users for handling a bunch of passwords and having to enter them everywhere is understandably low.

The Home Assistant devs apparently also deal SSO as "a corporate feature that big-corp interests want to force onto us" whereas it's the exact opposite in many cases: If we want self hosted services to be a realistic alternative to the "big corpo offerings" then we have to consider convenience and security an important feature and SSO is one of the few things that improves both at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Here's to hoping that your users aren't using Portainer to manage their Docker stacks haha

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Idk why you'd need LDAP login as the admin for a homelab.
For other things like owncloud it makes sense but not there but eh...Personal preference I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Once I've set up SSO I'd want to use it in as many places as possible. Not having to handle additional unnecessary passwords is a benefit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have something like 40-60 machines between hypervisors, VM, and physical. Central auth is an absolute must for that scale. Sure I could just re use the same password 60 times, but if that gets popped, I'd also have to change it 60 times (adding config management is a soon to be completed task)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can't call that a home environment anymore.
That is corporate scale and imo can be monetized

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Actually, I legally can't make money off of it for reasons that would dox me.

I already pay for both VMware and Microsoft licensing among several others. If I can get my SSO by saving a little bit of money by using a different product, I will. I don't mind paying for software I use when it makes sense, I only disagree with companies up-charging features like SSO that should be available to all customers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It might be, but in the history of that corp, they never had a free/community/oss project. It looks like the typical Embrace Extend Extinguish strategy, where you acquire competitors just to get their customer base instead of the real product. OC 10 it's already dead (no php 8 support) and ocis has almost no plugins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Didn't know about their history.
If that was the case: Fun while it lasted. Havent used it thus far but I wasn't against the situation if it justified the use of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's what it already is.