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"southern pride" is just racism alllll cleaned up. so much racism.
I don't disagree, but I'm saying it's not that that I like. It's the musical style, I really like it. I love Freebird and Sweet Home Alabama, Ramblin' Man by the Allman Brothers, Frankenstein by Edgar Winter, tons of really good songs.
Sweet Home Alabama really grinds my gears. Neil Young sings about systemic racism in the south and Skynard retorts 'yea some people here are racist โช but not all of us are โช frig off Neil Youngโช whoa now look at the sky'. Horse shit lyrics, sick composition.
You realize that they sang that ironically as a caricature of someone living in the south right?
I think you're mistaking VanZants' self-awareness of his southern pride and conflicting knowledge of the south's troubled history with an intentional caricaturization .
The song was certainly written in response to Young , as Van Zant thought Neil had been too broad. However, he obviously was aware that Neil had a point, so walking the line between pointing out Neil's generalization (as Van Zant saw it) while expressing pride was difficult and I think, ultimately too difficult a challenge.
Also Alabama just plain sucks. Muscle Shoals studio and the Mobile Bay jubilee are the only things they ever did right
There's some styles that are more folky that are much nicer in terms of subject
oh i agree, i love folk music.. all of that old school 'country rock' is great. not so much the twangy country/western
My favourites are Willie Nelson and Townes Van Zandt. Folksy cowboy country, contemplative and melancholic.
I used to be like you, then I played New Vegas and learned the error of my ways. Now Lefty Frizzell and Marty Robbins are my favorite country artists.
I grew up on the old stuff, even though my dad played rockabilly. We had tons of LPs and I wore out the grooves. Still love it.
Allmans are great. I grew up loving Skynyrd, but I can't really listen to most of it anymore. Check out "Play it all night long" by Warren Zevon for a pretty brutal mockery of "Sweet home Alabama".
I'm REALLY looking forward to that! I've liked Warren Zevon ever since Linda Ronstadt recorded "Poor poor pitiful me." And who doesn't like "Werewolves of London?"
For real! Every time sweet home alabama comes on the radio I pause for a second to see if it's:
"the good one (Warewolves),"
"the ok one (sweet home),"
or "the bad one (that fucking kid rock abortion)."
It's usually not the good one.
"Excitable Boy"
"Lawyers, Guns, And Money"
There is only one Southern Rock song ever created, and it is Molly Hatchett's "Flirtin With Disaster".
Fight me.
GREAT song. I re-listened to it just the other day and was so blown away I checked for all the other great Molly Hatchett songs.
Um.
That's American pride, don't use "the south" as a scape goat.
That's like saying "butts stink, don't use the rectum as a scape goat"
No it's more like proudly declaring that your own butt doesn't stink.