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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

3000 people sounds a bit excessive.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've noticed a lot of media outlets like to add a zero here and there when reporting.
A mix of 300 people could fill the IKEA parking lot. 3000 is an entire cruise ship.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You piqued my interest so I went to look it up. Average Ikea is 300k sf. So obviously omitting the fact that there are areas of the store that are off limits (although are you following those rules when you're playing hide and seek?), as well as there being furniture everywhere, that's 100 square feet per person, which I think is doable. Especially considering, if I'm playing hide and seek at IKEA, I'm hiding in the furniture.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

”if I’m playing hide and seek at IKEA, I’m hiding in the furniture”

You just showed your best hand. I can’t protect you now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be a 10x10 foot square for each person, that building would be pretty crowded once you take the shelves and merchandise into account.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Plus a lot of that is employee-only warehouse space.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wonder what the fire department's max occupancy is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Probably not more than 150 or 200, but their building isn't important, right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ha, yes. Okay, to be properly specific, the occupancy limit the fire department set for that Ikea building.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So occupancy is, firstly, based off classification. An IKEA would presumably be M under the UCC (Uniform Construction Code). Capacity is determined using the amount of exits and distance to those exits. You can have a million square foot building, but if there's only one door, you're going to be limited to 50 peoples. That'll obviously never happen, but just an example.

Mercantile can range from as few as 30sf per person to as many as 300 sf per person. Assuming this Ikea is on ground level, has a bunch of doors, I think you can safely use 60sf per person (10x6 area), which would allow for about a bajillion people in a 300k square foot IKEA.

That load is kind of in the middle. There are uses that require greater separation distances, like hospitals and other institutional uses, and then some that require less. I threw out 100sf per person, because 10x10 is honestly a bunch of room for your average person. I think you could reasonably do some cartwheels in a 10x10, and to me the cartwheel is a great demonstration of personal space. If you can cartwheel, you're good to go. What more do you want?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Interesting, thanks. Much of it is warehouse space that isn't open to customers, though. Not sure what proportion the shopping floor would be - 2/3? Plus the products on the showfloors take up a great deal of room.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? Why would there be an upper limit?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To how many people can reasonably fit inside Ikea without being disruptive?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, the police were called, so they were being disruptive.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm more confused if 3000 people could realistically even hide in an IKEA

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fair. But I'm not sure 3000 reaches that limit. Just sounded like you meant to playing hide and seek.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

At least you have to know when you've found them all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Small numbers for the Infinite IKEA Store

(edited for you link sleuths)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Please link the real wiki and not some shitty fandom repost, which isn't even complete