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Ok, calm down a bit. Even the Taiwanese do not claim to be independent. Their official stance is that they are just a rival government of China - aka Republic of China. For all the sabre-rattling, Taiwan is very much willing to negotiate with Bejing.
I do hope that, as much of Taiwanese public seemingly wants, Taiwan becomes an independent island nation, but we are still far off from that, at least in de jure sense.
Who the fuck cares about official claims? I guess the war in Ukraine is about denazifying since that's the official statement :)
Realistically though, official claims are diplomatic UN roleplay and actions are what matters; the US states that Taiwan is not independent but arms the absolute cock out of what they claim is ch*na.
I didn't say China's official claims, but Taiwans. We shouldn't push them into positions they are not ready to take, since its their necks on the line...
If they ever declare indeoendence, we should stand with them.
I didn't specify which claim it was, I pointed out how hollow and contextual those claims are.
Is Taiwan claiming to be independent in the chambers of the UN? No.
Does it act, and is it acted upon as if it was independent? Yes.
Am I a cop? No.
Am I the cop who arrested your mom in her bed chamber last night after she confessed to have been real naughty? Yes.
It's fascinating to see someone come across nuance for the first time.
This. This is a great reminder that, when one is tempted to argue on the internet, they shouldn't. Almost always, the person on the other side is either a kid or an idiot.