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Parents Sue Gaming Companies Over ‘Video Game Addiction’, Because That’s Easier Than Parenting::Video game addiction. Sigh. Big sigh, even. Like, the biggest of sighs. We've talked about claims that video game addiction is a documentable affliction in the past, as well as the pushback that claim has received from addiction experts, who have pointed out that much of this is being done to allow doctors to get…

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

True but parents have a responsibility to look at the game before letting their children play it. Should the mechanics exist? No. But should the parents look into the game beforehand? Yes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

How realistic is this though especially when certain mechanics get unlocked later in the game? The fact that these micro transactions, loot boxes, and everything else only exist to enrichen a few select people at the expense of everyone playing the game, it makes it hard to feel sympathetic toward these companies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This isn't viable because the systems these companies use to get the kids gambling is not obvious, even to a watchful adult. This is by design. Companies are also not obligated to give any information parents can use to identify this. Lastly, a lot of these games are free to get into, so the parents have no reason to know/ find out their kid is playing fortnite for example.

Again, these aren't circumstance, they are deliberate design choices to skirt the law and prevent potential action to stop it early.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

True but parents have a responsibility to look at the game before letting their children play it. Should the mechanics exist? No. But should the parents look into the game beforehand? Yes

Switch the word 'game' with the word 'drug' and the word 'play' with the word 'use', and your comment still reads the same.

We still outlaw addictive drugs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I highly doubt I will have the time to try all the new research drug-games my children acquire access to. Better stick to first party Nintendo games-drugs.

In all seriousness, PBS kids apps on mobile go hard, work on any device, and are fairly educational while being easy to use and fun enough to hold attention while being completely FREE.

We've paid for ABC mouse but the whole fuckin thing reeks of slot machine pokie stimulus while the puzzles and games crash often. The only thing that 100% works all the time is the store to exchange your "tickets"

Abc mouse is the highest rated most teacher recommended app and it's fucking awful.

My 3 year old has gotten way more out of free software than any pay software that's littered with addictive BS.

I would recommend:

GCompris

Khan academy kids

Learn to read Duolingo ABC

PBS anything

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Two things.

First, teenagers are also children, and every product that you describe would not fit them, those are more for the very young.

Second, we're talking about designing the game in such a way that it provokes the brain in the same way a drug would, in essence being a drug itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comment does not read the same at all, and two of the most addictive drugs, alcohol and nicotine, are legal.

Now if you'd said "we still outlaw addictive drugs FOR KIDS", you'd be right.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Switch the word ‘game’ with the word ‘drug’ and the word ‘play’ with the word ‘use’, and your comment still reads the same.

We still outlaw addictive drugs.

Comment does not read the same at all,

Well, let's see...

True but parents have a responsibility to look at the drug before letting their children use it. Should the drug exist? No. But should the parents look into the drug beforehand? Yes

They read the same to me. Both of them are about parents watching what a child does (gaming or drugs) and having responsibility over the child, which no human being can watch another one 24/7 successfully (even people in prison get murdered).

and two of the most addictive drugs, alcohol and nicotine, are legal.

And children are not allowed to purchase those, because it's harmful for them.

We, as a society, help the parents look out for their child by making laws to protect them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we though? Alcohol the most commonly used addictive drugs is allowed for adults and even children in many states as long as the adults approve and do it in in private residences.

Parents need to be better about paying attention to games. I remember telling my aunt about a game my 10 year old cousin wanted. She was horrified and said absolutely not. She bought it for him when he asked when they were in the store because she doesn't take any time to pay attention to game They're for kids. Even though games are clearly marked with any objectionable material. She "blindsided" by what was in the game when her son booted it up dispite the game be rated as mature, marking objectionable things and me giving her a play by play.

There are a lot of additive things that we expect parents to use their judgment on. Sugar for example. Until someone is talking to me about how we need a bad on soda and BS like that because parents can't be expected to parent their kids about it, I don't really care about the most optional of activities that is games. Children have extremely limited access if their parents don't allow it. Theu buy the phones/tables/game consoles and robust parental controls have existed for a while.

Kids can be addicted to all sorts of things and it's still on the parents. Because it's technology we for some reason stop believing parents can do a thing. Oh however would the person who controls the internet ans the devices control their child's access to social media (another one I see whining about) and video games. As a parent myself, I'm just under the impression that at least watching in my circle, the parents who don't aren't paying attention or don't actually care that much, they just don't like the outcome judgment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Alcohol the most commonly used addictive drugs is allowed for adults and even children in many states as long as the adults approve and do it in in private residences.

Not to get dragged down into a IANAL argument, but children purchasing alcohol though is not legal.

And what you described is adults helping children get around the law.

The law still exists.