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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just looked up the Ojibwa Indians and while I tend to try and be respectful of native/aboriginal religions, that, uh, that's a pretty interesting story. Like, for those of y'all who haven't looked it up, you should. It's... Interesting.

It's also fascinating to me because I've had a pet speculation that I like to entertain about "Xeno Christ", which originated from my observation that the creation story in the book of Genesis is very similar to how we believe the universe came to be (scientifically speaking). It's not a perfect 1:1, but if you use a little bit of creative license (like dinosaurs=birds, 'cause they kinda were), then it gets really close. The fact that the Ojibwa creation story seems to describe what we'd consider aliens kinda aligns with my speculation that many ancient religions were established as a message to humanity that was meant to persist as long as possible. Basically a mind virus that instructed people on how they should conduct themselves in order to be accepted by the greater galaxy/universe.

Imo, at the very least Christianity makes more sense when interpreted that way. The rules about what you can or can't eat, what you wear, homosexuality, etc are more reasonable if you think of them not as a deity who cares about whether or not you stick your dick into another man's butt, but instead instructions that attempt to warn humans away from behavior that'd potentially lead to parasites and STDs.

The concept of heaven and hell makes sense from the standpoint of establishing staying power as well as a way of discouraging immorality or potentially harmful behavior. It discourages certain behaviors because going to hell is a Big Deal. It also has staying power because, unlike an immediate threat, you can't break a rule and then find out that there's no one enforcing the rule. Additionally, by not using a karma system (what goes around comes around) but instead promising punishment after death, you solve the "billionaire problem" aka, "Zuckerberg is evil, why is he one of the richest men on the planet". Finally, it gives a reason to continue in your beliefs and spread them as far as you can, because we as humans are (typically) empathetic and none of us want to see a favorite relative go to hell when we're going to heaven or vice versa.

On a side note: it's also kinda interesting that, according to the Objiwa story, one of the miigi was so spiritually powerful that they accidentally killed everyone in their presence. Kinda like how God is described in the old testament. Makes you wonder sometimes.

Tbh I don't know if I actually believe any of it, but it's fun to play with the idea.

Edit: damn, people here thinking humans had health classes and knowledge about microbiology 4000-something years ago. There's the real ancient aliens shit LOL. Also, the Bible banned sodomy in general, which was defined as anything that wasn't for the purpose of reproduction. That includes a man having anal or oral sex with his wife.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You think aliens are homophobic?