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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (66 children)

It's easy to make a list of all communists countries that turned fascists and massacred people. You don't do that with capitalists because there are simply too many, everywhere, in about all of history.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's almost like the main problem with both authoritarian communism and authoritarian capitalism might be the authoritarianism.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It would be 100% with capitalist as well.

As [email protected] less succinctly put it. Capitalism is barely a few hundred years old. It's barely existed a fraction of human history. It's barely older than many of the original socialist ideals. Let alone all of history. Markets and currency predate capitalism and socialism by millennia. And neither has claim to them. Despite both making use of them.

That said fuck leninists. Actual communists are pretty chill though. But leninists and capitalists are a threat to everyone. Including themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

So capitalism has existed since "about all of history"? About as dumb a take as folks insisting that the Israel/Palestine conflict has been going on for thousands of years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just as a true socialist country has never existed, a true capitalist country has never existed. Economies are always mixed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ssshhhjttt, don't be reasonable, you're gonna make them cry

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only we could imagine what a truly capitalist country would look like in the future! Like, I don't know, we call this genra something like cyberpunk?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hahaha I win. I have created a work of fiction and where you are bad and I am good.

But that also exists for my side, yk, Orwellian. Brave New World too.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

a true capitalist country has never existed.

That may have something to do with the fact that there is no such thing as "true capitalism." Capitalism is as "true" as it can possibly get.

Economies are always mixed.

There can be no "mixture" between socialism and capitalism. If the means of production isn't controlled by workers it means there is no socialism to "mix" in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If “true communist country” is taken to mean “libertarian socialist country”, which then it seems fair to say that a “true capitalist country” has never existed in the sense of a “libertarian capitalist country”. Taxation, commercial regulation, and public ownership (public land, utilities, schools, parks, roads, transportation, etc.) are all contrary to the capitalist ideology.

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