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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who is it he thinks hes going to get to vote for him that isnt already voting for him?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my broader point is that Trump has gained 0 ground with any one who didn't vote for him in 2020, 2016.

It might feel good and he might be getting an emotional response from his bae (which is considerable), but he has won zero new voters with his post 2020 campaigning. If we go by the effect of actually votes cast, voting in 2021, 2022, 2023, has been an across the board shellacking for both Trumpism and to a lesser extent Republicanism. It's unpopular af outside of the circles in which it is super popular. His core is fanatical, but neither a plurality or majority outside of maybe some extreme states, an even then, I doubt it with how gerrymandered everything is.

So who is he servicing with this messaging and why? It's clearly just for his extant base. Why? I don't know. I don't think he planned to leave office and I think he sees that as his clearest past away from prison. But he won't win an election on shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

my broader point is that Trump has gained 0 ground with any one who didn’t vote for him in 2020, 2016.

I'm not so sure about that...he's polling better with black and Hispanic people than ever before, apparently. Good news it that these are early polls and feature a ton of problems that make their reliability low.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah polling seems to become less and less reliable in the last 1-4 years. Remember when the red wave was going to wipe out the "dems" and then....totally opposite happened.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same with this election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If polling is done by random calling numbers then you can trash any numbers cuz most of us ain't answering shit unless we recognize the number.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What methodology is used to get those poll numbers? If they are cold-calling people they will only talk to people who are so old that they still answer unknown numbers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a wildly large number of Latinos that don't like people coming here illegally, even if that includes people they know.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Despite Dems going to bat for immigrants and Latinos pretty often, they're really not a reliably liberal voting block. They probably trend more conservative than anything, which is ironic, given how much the GOP generally dislikes Latinos. Which seems like a recurring problem for Democrats. They try to build this Big Tent party and look out for various groups, but yet many of their supposed voting blocs aren't really reliable when they're needed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Think? Who ever said Trump was a thinker? Even he admits he just makes decisions by reflex.