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8GB RAM in M3 MacBook Pro Proves the Bottleneck in Real-World Tests::Apple's new MacBook Pro models are powered by cutting-edge M3 Apple silicon, but the base configuration 14-inch model starting at $1,599...

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It’s not so much soldered to the motherboard as much as part of the same package as the CPU. As in: there are no separate memory chips.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But they did indeed solder it in before that, on their old Intel laptops. I think they started doing that in 2013 or 2014 but I forget exactly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That has more to do with faster traces; the ram is “closer” to the CPU so the signal is cleaner.

Not defending the move, I’d take upgradability in a laptop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only makes a difference at oc levels of manual tuning. Which apple isn't doing at their factory I reckon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, when you’re the one manufacturing the board, I’m pretty sure you could eek out some more baseline performance without having to tweak each one for OC in the production line, my dude.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

At 100gb/s for the base model there probably actively downclocking the ram to make the higher end models more attractive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

This is both great, and incredibly annoying because they selected 8gb as the base…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So wait- if you want to increase your RAM, you have to install a whole new CPU?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

That's soldered as well! It's theoretically possible but way too involved for most to bother with hiring a professional to get it done or what have you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, you just buy one with the amount of RAM you need.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Imagine buying a laptop at all

Sincerely, A Framework user

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Imagine spending $400 for 24GB of ram.

Sincerely, another Framework user

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You don’t buy a laptop, you have your employer buy it for you.