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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

state of Israel is a genocidal ethnostate

You’re now admitting that Israel is a Jewish state despite trying to claim otherwise for this entire thread.

I've only responded to you a couple times, and all I said is that Israel is not all jews, does not speak for all jews, and is a genocidal ethnostate.

Saying death to an ethnostate does not mean death to the people in it, same as death to america doesn't literally mean all americans should die.

This isn't that hard.

Israel kills way more Palestinian civilians every day

Two wrongs don’t make a right. Israel is doing horrible things, but it doesn’t deflect from the fact that “death to Israel” is antisemitic.

One of those parties is a colonial occupier, the other an occupied people resisting state violence. I can support one and not the other.

You’ve taken this argument far away from “death to Israel” not being antisemitic because you’re trying to argue that Palestine should exist. I’m not saying it shouldn’t, but it doesn’t make you not antisemitic.

Death to Israel is not antisemetic, because despite the europeans wrapping it in the trappings of jewishness, it isn't all jews, doesn't speak for all jews.

Israel systematically disenfranchises non-jews and sterilizes non-white jews.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Saying death to an ethnostate does not mean death to the people in it

It does when civilians are being killed.

One of those parties is a colonial occupier, the other an occupied people resisting state violence. I can support one and not the other.

Your support for Palestine doesn't make "death to Israel" not antisemitic.

Death to Israel is not antisemetic, because despite the europeans wrapping it in the trappings of jewishness, it isn't all jews, doesn't speak for all jews

Just because Israel doesn't represent all Jews doesn't absolve you of antisemitism for wishing death upon Israel. It is majority Jewish, and just above you have stated that the problems are all caused by the "European colony" of Jews. You're mad at Israel because of those Jews, but not the Jews you like? This was common Nazi apologist rhetoric under Hitler.

Israel systematically disenfranchises non-jews and sterilizes non-white jews.

  1. The story isn't as simple as you've described it.
  2. Two wrongs don't make a right.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fake ass settler state getting defended by the bigger fake ass settler state.

Occupied people can resist occupation by any means necessary.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Occupied people can resist occupation by any means necessary.

No. You can't start killing civilians just because other civilians or their parents or their grandparents or or their racioethnic group or their government have taken land that belonged to you or your family's ancestry or your racioethnic group or your government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What a convenient opinion for an American to have lol

You're parked on a mountain of corpses on stolen land saying that might makes right

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't done that at all, but you equating me with my race/country does further demonstrate your racism. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You haven't done it, but there's you defending Israel doing it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did I ever say that what Israel does is right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No you just showed up to tone police people resisting settler violence, and act obtuse about what words mean. How are you a native speaker??

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If "tone policing" is calling out "death to Israel" as antisemitic, then sure. Call me the Tone Police Chief. I'm not the one acting obtuse about what those words mean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love if the state of Israel ceased to exist. Death to America.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your words don't scare or hurt me; they just make you sound ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not the one trying to all lives matter the genocidal ethnostate

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, "Death to Israel" is not the same as "Black Lives Matter," unless you actually DO mean "White Lives Don't Matter"

And, once again, two wrongs don't make a right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You, like many settlers, seem to conflate the death of your settler state with your personal death.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't settled anywhere.

When Hamas is killing Israeli civilians and saying "death to Israel," I'm not conflating anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Israel and America kill civilians constantly I can't believe you're pretending like you care as an American if you can't even call for an end to your own government.

You live in a settler state and are defending another one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You’re mad at Israel because of those Jews, but not the Jews you like? This was common Nazi apologist rhetoric under Hitler.

I'm mad at Israel because of the genocide it is predicated on.

Non white Jews have been sterilized there, it's got far more in common with the Nazis than any other state besides America