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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Based on what a reasonable carbon price should be, I don't think you would need to tax them to oblivion. They would just need to pay their fair share.

This website suggests that it is about 0.4 tonne of CO2 per passenger per day. Canada's current carbon tax is $65 per tonne. So a 7 day cruise would be $182 per passenger in carbon pricing. This is just ballpark and yes you can argue that carbon prices should be higher.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are quickly arriving at an unpayable bill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For whom though? I think if your product is going to be very expensive because of that you,ll try to find ways (less carbon emissive) to make it cheaper, and for others, who have low emissions already, they get an advantage. Also rich people generally emit much more carbon than poor people.

I'm a little bit tired of the argument, that everything gets expensive, like the money just goes to nirvana, it's a tax and a tax should steer industries (mostly) to do the right thing (in this case emit less CO2). The money can go directly to people e.g. in the form of a universal basic income.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

For the ability to produce enough food. It's not the tax that's the issue it's that the climate will make industrial food production unviable. We will rapidly exit the conditions that underpin the viability of the modern economy. The only work of value will be making food and related tools in a volatile climatic environment. The bill will not be payable in money, is my point. That is, a tax will be woefully inadequate.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

We are quickly arriving at an unpayable bill.