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I really do wish governments invested more in open source. If it's a generic thing like an operating system that the public could benefit from at large, they would be doing the public a service.
Edit: Germany does it again!
that would be a sound investment and we can't have that, the government must focus on actively detrimental infrastructure projects to put money in the pockets of rich people.
The US has the US Digital Service. Alex Gaynor, who has had involvement in a wide array of OSS projects, is employed there.
Government ran distros in public schools and government offices wouldn’t be any more invasive than windows working with the government. Better yet there actually be some sort of education on using the os and exponential growth of the Linux desktop as a whole.
I just wish KDE would get some love too. They work their asses off to make a desktop suit as many use cases and workflows as possible while maintaining a mostly polished experience. Their not afraid to implement stuff knowing it’s just a temporary solution till other projects catchup. They are actually willing to work with other projects on implementing standards and are developing standards like HDR on wayland for professional artists and gamers and are the first to jump on major features as soon as its solid.
Gnome is just annoying mess great for smartphone users unwilling to learn anything new and had never touched a pc or Mac in their life. What’s the appeal of using something with half its features gutted for the sake of looks just to have everyone add it back in anyway. It’s an annoying Apple like philosophy of let’s implement counter intuitive interfaces to preserve a look and never change it back because we’re always right. You’d think they’d have improved the window snap feature since 3.0
Ffs I knew this submission would turn into a minority of Plasma users trying to piss on Gnome. Can you not just be happy that an open source project is receiving help and that this will be a big improvement for accessibility features?
I never hear Gnome users crying about Valve heavily supporting KDE, so why are you angry about this?
This does not happen because Gnome is the most supported desktop environment out there, they have Red Hat, Google, Canonical, OpenSuse even Microsoft donated to Gnome. Don't get me wrong some of this company do support kde too, but Gnome get treated in a different way because it's the default de for most of the distros out there.
Like you said, these companies help KDE too. KDE also has more hardware partners, and more contributors.
Even ignoring all that though, it still doesn't answer the question: why cry over Gnome getting money to aid in accessibility improvements?
I have never once heard anybody cry about the companies that support KDE, yet some people here go on like Gnome fucked their girlfriend. It's pathetic.
Nobody's forcing anybody to use Gnome or any any other DE. Just be happy when nice things happen in the FOSS word.
But I'm using xfce here... :') and It doesn't even get some funds :'(
Wayland on XFCE is still farr farrrrrr :')
I'm not complaining about gnome getting support, I'm complaining about kde being overlooked because gnome is the default desktop for Ubuntu. Kde is just a better tool for people wanting to just get things done. Gnome is pretty I'll give you that but ask anyone, they are very hard to work with and stubbornly refuse compromise when working with others on creating useful tools and standards.
Just think how many times they broke extensions without any regard for the individuals using it. Their efforts to make other projects wait for them to deside what's best for gnome like they are the only desktop that matters. The projects like portals usually say their going to implement the standard despite what gnome wants and kde often helps with the brunt of that work.
You literally are.
KDE isn't overlooked. KDE gets funding too. Valve and others have put so much into KDE. KDE has the most hardware partnerships. KDE has more contributors.
In your opinion...
I do all my work on Gnome because it's got an amazing and highly productive workflow, minimal distractions, and it's extremely stable.
I like Plasma, I like the options it has, I have it on one of my laptops, but it's not what I'd use for work. The last thing I need is for kwin to crash and take all the programs I had open with it, losing hours of work. Yes, I'm aware this should be fixed in Plasma 6, but as of right now it's a massive showstopper.
Gnome has championed a lot of open standards, and worked with others. You're just repeating a Reddit meme. They've done so much flatpak, portals, open-desktop stuff in collaboration with KDE and others.
You're showing a complete lack of understanding about what extensions are.
Extensions are impossible not to break from time to time. Extensions don't use some unchanging API to work - they're modifications on the DE itself. That's why they're so powerful.
There's no way around DE mods sometimes becoming borked when the DE gets a big update.
Why are you acting like Gnome is against portals lmao, they've been massively pushing portals and open desktop standards, even going as far as refusing to implement features unless there's a cross-desktop standard way of handling it (e.g. accent colours, which they are only now putting in place now that they and KDE have hammered out a sensible standard for it. Or a better system tray, which they've been trying to spearhead an open, cross-desktop solution for for years now, although little progress has been made by everyone). Of the DEs, Gnome has pushed for things like portals and flatpaks the most lol
We get it. In your mind, Gnome = bad and evil and nasty, KDE = good quirky and kool.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
It's the job of the Gnome developers to update and improve Gnome.
It's the job of the extension developers to update their extensions when there's a new Gnome version.
And it's the job of your distro's maintainers to keep the versions of Gnome and the extensions in the repo compatible.
If you install Gnome from your distro's repo and extensions from Gnome's website, YOU take on this job.
Just install your extensions from your distro's repo and you won't have any issues.
Oh I see, I didn't realize there was such a contrast between the cultures of KDE and GNOME. Idk why ppl are downvoting you
They are being downvoted because it is utter nonsense, spouted as authoritative fact.
Anyone who has ever used gnome seriously, knows that although it can be used for touch it is heavily keyboard oriented.
While not undermining the work of KDE devs who I have great admiration for, GNOME devs also work heavily on standards that benefit all of linux, and arguably do just as much if not more, as they are a very well resourced project.