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Already looking ahead to the turmoil his re-election could cause, Donald Trump and his allies are reportedly circling an idea to invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office, deploying the military to act as domestic law enforcement.

According to a Washington Post report on Sunday, the drafting of such plans has largely been “unofficially outsourced” thus far to a coalition of right-wing think tanks working under the title “Project 2025.” It was identified as an immediate priority for the hypothetical resurrected Trump administration, internal communications obtained by the newspaper showed.

In response to questions from the Post, Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung provided a statement: “President Trump is focused on crushing his opponents in the primary election and then going on to beat Crooked Joe Biden,” he said. “President Trump has always stood for law and order, and protecting the Constitution.”

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unfortunately the game isn't to win the popular vote, it's to win the electoral vote. You can rack up all the votes in California and New York, it's only like 6 states that really matter to the outcome. And the Democrats aren't exactly trying their best to endear themselves to voters in a state like Michigan (not even paying lip service to doing anything to protect civilians in Gaza, not prosecuting the people responsible for the Flint Water Crisis and even accepting their endorsement, constantly claiming the economy is great while people are still struggling, ...).

Those people might not vote Trump, but they'll stay home or vote third party.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which in itself is a vote for Trump. I wish we were a society where voting for your personal choice for most ideal candidate was a viable option - but it is not. Protesting a vote over this fact is small-minded and destructive. I am sorry if you feel like you have to pick between two evils... might I suggest comparing how evil they are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't tell me, I'm not the one voting/not voting in swing states. I'm just saying that Biden needs the Muslim vote in swing states, and they're seeing democrats sending billions to Israel to effectively conduct a genocide. I don't think they see that as a 'lesser of two evils', especially if there's some Republicans making noises about stopping aid on budgetary grounds.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Trump lost Michigan in 2020 and then in 2022 Gretchen Whitmer (D) won a second term as Governor. Also in 2022, both the Michigan State Legislature and Michigan State Senate flipped to Democratic majorities for the first time in over a decade. I don't know how things will go in 2024, but I don't think flying the Trump banner will find any significant wins in Michigan.

I agree that more needs to be done regarding the civilians in Gaza and the West Bank, but our hands are a pretty tied because of our obligations in the US treaty with Israel. Keeping those promises makes helping the Palestinian people very difficult, but breaking that treaty would likely destabilize the balance of power there and make things worse not better for everyone in the region. US Secretary of State Blinken has already strongly urged Israel to avoid civilian casualties. If Governor Whitmer said anything on the matter it would probably be seen as speaking out of turn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

it's only like 6 states that really matter to the outcome.

Not technically true. There are only like 6 states that are big enough to have a large impact and not predictable enough to not already know who they'll vote for.

CA is nearly 20% of the needed electoral votes by itself, it's just that absolutely everyone knows those are going to go to the Democrats so no one really fights over them. It's a waste of resources for Dems to defend them or GOP to try to convert them because they aren't going to budge.

If CA or NY went red, or even came meaningfully close to going red, they would be the most important state in the election.