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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (4 children)

At least with open street map, you can login to openstreetmap.org/edit and mark the bad road as private/gated or even delete it entirely. I did it on a bad road segment in my neighborhood and ride-sharing drivers no longer made wrong turns there (Grab apparently uses OSM instead of Google Maps data).

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You can actually do this with Google maps too. It can take time for them to actually make changes though

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We had this same problem and did just this. 3 years later still no changes. Until my dad happened to be complaining about it at a party and was introduced to a friend of a friend that worked at Google with the maps team. Was finally fixed a week later. So yea a path exists but 3 years is a long time to wait for a simple fix.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swear they use the Maps Contributor ratings to determine how quickly they make changes.

I've not had any issues getting changes made in a timely manner when I suggest them because I've left a bunch of reviews and photos for places I've visited.

If you never leave reviews or photos, they probably don't trust your suggestions. That's just my guess though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Makes sense that was the only time I used the suggestion tool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A few months ago I reported a missing section of road where I'm from and they corrected it in like a couple of weeks. Maybe it depends on how many people reports the same thing? IDK

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm always divided about it. At one hand, I want to help people not getting lost, but at the other, I don't want to contribute to google.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You can... IF other people do it too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How? Every single adress is wrong on google for the whole muncipiality since they standarized the road numbering 3 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. Will give it a shot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can also make submissions to Apple Maps.

Even though these are massive corporations, they kinda do rely on feedback here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crowdsourcing is nice but I'm not happy about the "don't mark temporary hindrances" thing in OSM, some of them last for months and I can't warn others. Sometimes I even forget the hindrance myself and feel real ~~unsmart~~ dumb.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That seems like a tricky one to moderate. I’m sure they are worried about things being set and forgotten and never repealed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand why, but I also have examples of compromises;

  • Set a marker, it expires after a certain timeperiod. Users "validate" that the hindrance is still there, resetting the timer.
  • Set a marker, "Hindrance here at 2023-11-03"
    • "Expected end"
      • Today
      • This week
      • This month
      • Later (Marked hindrance disappear some time after "Expected end" if no users validate that it's still there, with new "Expected end".

Just some thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That does seem like a good system for structuring things for users with good intent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

users with good intent

Oh right, it could easily be abused by traffic trolls. Didn't cross my mind, sometimes my faith in other people are unreasonably high.

Perhaps some sort of validation system, if two users report the same temporary hindrance? TBH I can't be bothered to work out a fool-proof system for a hypothetical solution I doubt will ever be implemented hah.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I may not longer live in Vermont but man I've been wanting to get Google maps updated on all the roads that no longer exists also now I live in Florida I'm finding none of the bike lanes are recognized

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nice. The only place I know uses Grab is Vietnam and other se asian countries like maybe Indonesia