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Hauling 50 pounds of groceries a couple miles is not enjoyable for the vast majority of people.
You need to rethink how cities are designed for walking to grocery stores to work. It won't in the US, because everything is designed for cars. But if a city is designed right, you won't need to go miles before finding a grocery store. You can take a cargo bike to haul more things at a time. You can stop by shops on your way home from work to pick up a couple things and stick them in a backpack.
Cities designed correctly reduce the burden on those walking or biking between points of interest that are no more than 1 or 2 miles away.
That’s nice and all, but the vast majority of people would still overwhelmingly choose the ease and comfort of a car when getting groceries over a bike.
... In the US.
FTFY
No.. the entire civilized world
Nah, I've lived in two places now where walking or cycling to get your groceries (or, gasp, just having them delivered) is way nicer. Because it sucks to drive and the store is just around the corner.
Y'all just don't have a clue what you're missing.
You do realize people live outside of dense cities right?
Talk about not having a clue lol
This isn't about rural areas. Obviously no one's expecting people on farms to go walk to a nearby store. But most people aren't on farms.
I’m not talking about farms, I’m talking about suburbs where most people do live.
Then I go back to my previous statement because you've clearly never seen a nice little dutch suburb :)
I’ve seen plenty of them. You’ve clearly never seen and/or can’t comprehend how spread out many countries are.
You do know that much of the US was built on the rail network and plenty of cities had transit systems that were the envy of the world until they decided against those in favor of the car and bulldozed city centers for parking? You're making it seem like this is impossible when it used to be the standard.
And cars are still exponentially more convenient than back then. So yea the chances of people willfully going back to that is practically impossible.
... In the US.
(And it's not because it wouldn't work ;))
If you think that’s just the US you are completely oblivious to the world around you.
Not just the US. But if think the rest of the world is as disinterested in making a change as you are, you'd (thankfully) also be very wrong.
Most people live in cities.
Speak for yourself.
Since I can walk there a few times a week, I tend to buy less grocceries at a time. The weight limit helps me budget for the week by preventing me from buying more than I need.
That sounds like a solution, and I'm glad you found it and it works for you, but walking and purchasing multiple times a week instead of once every two weeks is a much larger time commitment. This also really only works if you are buying for yourself and no one else.
You need to rethink how cities are designed for walking to grocery stores to work. It won't in the US, because everything is designed for cars. But if a city is designed right, you won't need to go miles before finding a grocery store. You can take a cargo bike to haul more things at a time. You can stop by shops on your way home from work to pick up a couple things and stick them in a backpack.
Cities designed correctly reduce the burden on those walking or biking between points of interest that are no more than 1 or 2 miles away.
How do you manage to keep produce fresh for 2 whole weeks?
A fridge, and the help of a roommate that also doesn't mind things that aren't "fresh" by the time we use them.
That’s sounds like an even a bigger pain in the ass lol
What sounds like a bigger pain in the ass to me is catastrophic global climate collapse. But any slight inconvenience is impossible to overcome for the most horribly lazy I guess.