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I have recently played 3 games that have forced a lengthy, unskippable tutorial section that runs for several hours of the game, just to unlock the most basic functions like buying the items, customizing features, multiplayer, and even 2-player split screen modes.

For 2 of these games (Armored Core 6 and Gran Turismo 7), the major draw for me was the MP and I haven't even gotten to check out MP yet because it's locked out until you get passed a certain point in the progression system. Fuckin' why do any developers do this? I just wanted to play with my sister but we have to get through most of the fucking game before we are allowed to do the multiplayer modes. Such bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

GT7 makes sense. There needs to be some barrier to make sure people know how to drive the cars without just immediately jumping into the game.

Tutorials under 1hr are ok. Once they go over that I stop playing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not even just online MP. It's the split screen, too!

Besides: Why would there need to be a barrier? If you suck, you're just gonna lose. If there was a ranking system, eventually you only match with other players who suck. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because losing takes out the other players too. Racing is unique in that if you’re bad, you’ll also end the races of multiple players around you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

limit the mp to ghost and "coop" modes - case closed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Online racing sim is one of the most bizarre "gaming" communities. I came to hate driving after years of several hours commute and have zero patience for virtual cars now, but the small amount of time I was trying out sim racing was plagued with cursed elitism. Having driven for many years with a clean license isn't enough for these people. You could be a professional driver for races and movies both and they would probably fault you for something. I don't know the game you are speaking of in particular so maybe it's not that bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why? What if I want to jump into the game and then learn how to drive the cars?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then do that in single player, that’s what it’s there for

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't see that this was referring to multiplayer. In that case it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because when you people get online like in Grid, you just crash everyone else and now there's only a handful a people racing, fun is over before the first curve.