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I've spent the past 2 days being called names because I am having an issue with download speeds in Linux, and I said Windows is better because in my experience it just works.
Someone literally told me to apologize for saying this, lmao. I'm called an idiot, moron, that I am the problem, all because Linux refuses to work, and the hardcore FOSS/Linux Lemmy community can't handle it.
This place is so tiring. Reddit users were toxic, but Lemmy users are even more so. I guess that's what happens when you get all the banned people, like you said, and a group of people who hate Reddit, in one place. Lemmy reminds me of VOAT. Instead of insane right-wing hate, it's just insane hate to anyone who dares pay money for something, or says something negative about FOSS/Linux.
I agree on the lemmy being quite tiring at times my first ~~second~~ post garnered alot of attention and I had to deal with those unsavory types anyways what are you having troubles with on linux I'm a bit of a newbie myself but I might be able to help m8
Here's the post ~~glourious shitpost~~ in question https://lemmy.world/post/6586403
Steam only downloads at around 120Mbps on all of the distros I've tried, which are Ubuntu 23.10, Fedora 39, and Manjaro 23.0.4.
The distro sees my 2.5Gb NIC, and the web browser downloads at full speed, but Steam refuses.
I tried everything. Changing servers, installing DNSMASQ, different distros, etc. and nothing fixes it. DNSMASQ did bump up my speed to 300Mbps for a second, but then right back down to 120Mbps.
Upon Googling this, it's a known issue. A LOT of people have the issue. Some them say DNSMASQ fixes it, others say Valve fixed it years ago, and others, like me, say nothing fixes it, and we move back to Windows where we get 1900Mbps download on Steam.
Everyone who wants to fight me about this, calling me names, all say it's "an easy fix", but refuse to tell me until I tell them I am a stupid idiot and apologise for criticizing Linux.
Here's my issue:
I get your frustration, but "criticizing Linux" while you're visibly having a known Steam issue is kind of weird. Not saying you're not having the issues, and I understand why you went back instead of dealing with it, but are you "criticizing Windows" when some other piece of third-party software bugs out too?
Agreed though, the Linux community has a very vocal, very annoying and rather elitist component which doesn't help the reputation...
I've noticed that Steam for Windows displays download speed in mbit/s while the Linux client displays it in mbyte/s, although both display the unit as mb/s. This is a setting that can be toggled. This doesn't account for the entire difference (1887mbit > 109mbyte) but is one contributing factor.
In my screenshot Steam is set to Mbps, same as speedtest.
Also the time left to download rdr2 in the screenshot wouldn't be that long if it was MB/s instead
Ah, that's annoying. Have you reported the issue to Valve? Seems like it's their issue to fix. I personally haven't encountered this issue, so I'm unable to help further, but it seems that it's an issue with Steam's Linux client since the rest of the system is unaffected, as I understand it.
Well that's interesting I've never experienced that before ~~but then again its been awhile since i mained linux~~ just going to say this are you sure you haven't checked updated and uninstalled drivers and also prehaps checked to see if its a hardware issue maybe worked your way through some troubleshooting guides maybe
Here's a person having this issue in Manjaro and not in Windows 11: https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/6717729343888060324/
I link that specifically, because it's newer, showing the issue still exists.
Someone linked a reply to an article from 2015, talking about how to fix the issue: https://ein-eike.de/2015/01/02/fixing-download-speed-problems-under-steam-for-linux/
Another Steam Forum post about this from 2021, where multiple people talk about having this issue: https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/3083256496964006577/
And of course, if you check Reddit, there are at least 50+ posts ranging in time from 2014 - 2023 about this.
Everyone says to fix it, download DNSMASQ, and disable IPV6. Both of which don't fix it for me, or pretty much anyone else having the issue since 2015.
I don't really know how else to troubleshoot it. I've changed distros mulitple times, downloaded Steam from different repos/directly, and tried all of the "fixes' posted online. My NIC isn't the issue, since I am clearly getting 1887Mbps down in Firefox. If you have any suggestions, I'd love to try them.
Truth is, no one knows why it's happening, or what the actual fix is, and they are pretending to withhold the fix until I apologise for saying Linux doesn't just work like Windows does. None of these hateful Lemmy Linux users that are attacking me actually know how to fix it, but they can't admit Linux can be hella janky.
Look I'm not going lie lol i have no idea what is going on here mate all I'm going say is good luck mate linux can be janky as fuck but when you get shit running well custom rice all your programs running well it's perfecto and well worth the time and effort
Although if you don't have the time or effort to go though all this then just use windows whatever works for you mate check our tiny10 if I were you
I will say, Linux is definitely way better now than it was even 18 months ago, but it's random issues like this that make things so frustrating.
I've been trying to fix it for 5 days now. I spent a good 3 hours one day just Googling shit, and it's still broken.
It's not that I like Windows, I just can't see how spending hours upon hours trying to fix something broken in Linux that just works in Windows is worth my time. Doesn't help when Lemmy users claim they can fix it in 2 minutes, but refuse to tell me how like some child lol
Maybe when I try Linux again next year this issue will be resolved.
Weird, because it works on Windows. Sounds like a Linux issue.
Ok, and you have claimed you can fix it. Tell me how you're going to fix a Steam issue?
Oh wait, it's almost like you're full of shit and you can't fix it. Get lost, liar.
And I'm not apologizing, you autistic creep.
You're angwy and upswet at me for saying Linux doesn't work well.
You are the one insulting me, and say I need to apologise to you? Lmao.
Grow up. Fuck off. You may have luck trying to control others in your life, but you can't control me. Enjoy having to fix basic issues in Linux. Also enjoy your slow af internet.
Sorry my ass. I'm sorry I didn't block you sooner and let your autistic retarded comments show up in my inbox.
You're literally stalking me. You said you came back to my profile to see how I made out, and then proceeded to comment on like 8 of them.
You're a creepy sad person. Enjoy your 500Mbps lmao.
You proved nothing, and you're toxic as shit. You're the worst kind of Linux user. You're gate keeping a fix that is preventing others from using Linux, because you're a childish autistic moron that thinks an internet stranger should apologise to you for saying Linux is broken.
Go away, Tony.
Enjoy the year of Linux 3057.
I'm a trash human because I said Linux doesn't just work?
I'm the insecure loser, yet you're the one demanding I APOLOGIZE for saying Linux doesn't work?
Touch grass.
Ok, Anthony Hanneman.
I know. You also posted your address, probably not meaning to, and you posted a photo of your back yard.
Perhaps the moron is you?
I didn't dox you. You publicly post this info.
0, because you're a nobody YouTuber wannabe loser.
I used a VPN. I'm not a moron. Not that it matters, I can just change my Mac address and get a new IP address in 5 seconds.
I did, though. Perhaps friends from my group chat didn't, but I don't think they really care.
I didn't threaten you, but you threatened me. I'll be reporting you to your local authorities.
Just saying, a guy threatened me 8 years ago who lived in the US. I contacted his local authorities and he ended up getting in quite a bit of shit.
Again, I never threatened you. I said you're a moron because you posted your address and a photo of your garage on the internet.
YOU posted that stuff PUBLICALLY.
You're threatening me by claiming to have my IP address, and that you've scraped my profile, downloaded a local copy, and you'll be using it against me.
One is a moron posting personal information online, the other is someone gathering private (not publicly available info), and using it to triangulate my location.
I feel safe because I don't live in America where gun violence is an issue. It's also my first time having an argument about something as stupid and autistic as network issues on Linux. Let's not forget who called out the other person first. It was you. Calling me a moron, and then coming back to my profile days later to continue.
I also feel safe because I used a VPN.
I'm sure if you look at your logs you'll see a few different IP addresses. Like I said, my friends also looked at your website.
Why would I connect via VPN and then turn it off? That makes no sense.
Either way, let me know if I should proceed. I'm familiar with starting the process of reporting someone who threatened me online, said they'll use my IP to geolocate me, and asking me if I feel safe at night.
My VPN is automatically connected with a killswitch. It's always on. It's not possible for me to connect without it. Like I said, you're seeing my friends IP addresses.
You clearly don't understand what threatening means. Saying I'll regret it, and I'll see where it leads, are threats.
I'm done discussing this with you directly.
Lmao imagine having to fix Steam 😂😂😂😂😂 just works in Windows.
Linux L
Imagine having to fix download speeds. What year is it? 1953?
I have to, because I don't live in America. Microsoft can't put ads in my region.
How's Ubuntus partnering with Amazon going? Still putting Amazon ads in search results?
Yeah I particularly didn't enjoy people from the US who couldn't point my country in a map basically chastising me for mentioning the leftist party that has been in power for something like the last 40 years hasn't done us any good in a post where they were circle jerking about the right wing liberal candidate being bad
I had to block tons of subs at this point. Mostly political ones but some that shouldn't be political like world news too