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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I said, it is just one canton. People make it as though the entirety of Switzerland did not allow women to vote until the 90s when it is just one canton. It is essentially a myth. I'm not defending what happened, I'm saying it is a misconception and a myth at best.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An earlier referendum on women's suffrage was held on 1 February 1959 and was rejected by the majority (67%) of Switzerland's men

This isn't a myth and saying "it's one canton" doesn't absolve the people who voted overwhelmingly against women being able to vote.

The result is right here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_Swiss_referendums#:~:text=The%20first%20was%20held%20on,approved%20by%2062%25%20of%20voters.

I just can't figure out for the life of me why you want to defend this or keep calling it a myth.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh you're talking about the 70s. Most people talk about the 90s when that one Swiss canton still did not allow women to vote on federal level, making as though entirety of Switzerland did not allow women to vote until the year 1990.

But sorry to be pedantic (and I am being one because I am a historical nerd and annoyed by perpetuation of historical myths), but it is Liechtenstein which is the last European country not to have allowed women to vote until 1984, not Switzerland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about them being "last". You make a lot of stuff up for someone who cares about facts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I misread the previous comments.

In any case, voting rights has nothing to do with gun policies. Switzerland is pretty conservative, but it can't be denied that their gun policies and culture is sensible. American conservatives, usually the proponents of looser gun regulations, could learn from the Swiss. Give credit to where it is due.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't say they had anything to do with each other, I specifically used it as an example of where Swiss policy differs from international consensus, much as American policy on gun control does from the rest of the world.

I accept your agreement on the other parts.