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[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. It's a plant. Made of plant things. In the same way that plants that are fertilized by dead bodies would also be vegan. You aren't eating meat. The plant is receiving sustenance from breaking down that organic material but you aren't.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meat is literally dead bodies, which we derive sustenance from.

Harvested plants would be considered dead (plant) bodies, so where is the difference?

The best argument I've heard so far is the one around sentience, but that gets confusing too, since plants react to stimuli and grass can signal other plants it's being eaten.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

But the question you asked was about a vegan diet.

The difference is complex chemical reactions. These complex reactions could be "sentience" but it's the number of reactions and how they all work together to accomplish goals beyond their singular function.

Plants perceived communicating is due to adaptation and evolution to protect themselves from predators and fire. They did not develop communication skills like an animal would have to also protect itself. Perception and interaction are not communication.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No no. I mean if a plant is nourished by dead animals who have died near them. Or in some places where animal bodies are used in fertilizer.