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Can someone rational explain the concern here?
Red Hat turning evil, Fedora (controlled by Red Hat) implementing telemetry.
I am disappointed in the direction RH has moved in, but what makes it evil? I am certain that a good portion of their work will make its way into open source projects. So it seems to me that it is a good thing that we all hope would be better. And I thought you had to opt into the Fedora telemetry. Is that not the case? If they are using it for design improvements it's all to the good. If Fedora is selling the information and they force or trick users into it, then yes, Fedora will deserve its inevitable demise.
100% should make its way, that's open source. Now projects need to be scared when looking at Red Hat code because they might get sued for it.
RedHat is not going closed source. All the code is still open source. Nobody is getting sued for looking at it.
Read Red Hat's new license terms and then try again, kid.
I’ve seen them. I understand them. I’m correct.
Not making their sources generally available for download is NOT the same as closed source. The only ones subject to their new licensing agreements are their paying customers. They are very much pushing against the spirit of FOSS licenses but there is no potential for some Joe on the street to get sued for looking at their source code.
First they came for...
Nah, nevermind. You'll understand soon.
You think you are talking to a very different person than you actually are.
Not making their package sources generally available for download is NOT the same as closed source. The only ones subject to their new licensing agreements are their paying customers. They are very much pushing against the spirit of FOSS licenses but there is no potential for some Joe on the street to get sued for looking at their source code.
But how would that Joe look at the source code if it not publicly available and he's not a paying customer?
Checkmate.
If Joe hasn’t been provided the binaries from RedHat they’re under no obligation to provide the sources.
And the true sources can easily be obtained from the upstream, same place every other distro provider get’s them.
Yah I don't get it. I don't think people realize how much of the stuff they run is developed by Red Hat. I think people still think its coders in their free time contributing but alot of the kernel and other big projects are done by people who are paid.