this post was submitted on 28 Oct 2023
46 points (91.1% liked)

Asklemmy

43781 readers
974 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I'll preface this by saying that English is not my mother language and I'm sorry if this isn't the right community, but I didn't find a more appropriate one.

Last year I started to notice more and more people on YouTube for example using the verb "to put" without a preposition -- like "Now I put the cheese" -- which sounds very weird and kind of feels wrong to me. Is this really used in spoken English and is it grammatically correct?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The exception I can think of as a native speaker is when the place is strongly implied. Like, "Now I put this..." and trail off, but it's obvious where I'm putting it because you're watching me put it somewhere that I've probably indicated multiple times already.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Caveat lector: I'm not a native speaker, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.

This exception seems to be a case of right-edge deletion - you're generating the sentence as if you were to utter the adverbial/prepositional complement, but then you chop the sentence just before the element. This can be shown by the following:

  1. I put some flowers on the table. // OK, complete sentence. Typically including a falling tone near the end.
  2. I put some flowers... // "on the table" is on the right edge, so it can be deleted.
  3. I put some flowers on the table for decoration. // OK
  4. [?] I put some flowers for decoration. // Weird, probably agrammatical.
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Native English speaker here. Option 4 "sounds" more acceptable than 2. Maybe it's because you can more easily imply where the flowers are?